Floyd is a better offensive fighter than Manny! Pac-JMM & PBF-JMM fights prove it.

[tesla_power]

It's amazing how people still don't understand styles make fights.

Against Pacquiao, Marquez can do what he does best - play the role of the counter puncher. Pacquiao will come in and attack and that's when Marquez unleashes his counter shots. He is the perfect style for Pacquiao.

Against Mayweather however, Marquez was forced to play the role of the aggressor and floyd played the role of the counter puncher, and that is not marquez' game. He's not nearly as effective walking forward, while floyd is the one setting traps.

This is some simple ass stuff right here you'd think "hardcore" boxing fans would understand right away but apparently not.

Yeah. This is pretty similar to the thread "Pac is better defensively than Floyd" and goes on to quote I think some compubox numbers with Hatton and Hoya . Stats are pretty much at the mercy of the one looking at it. Lolz.

[tesla_power]

Damn and I thought I was the only one who saw this. Mayweather did in fact lead at certain times in the Marquez fight and Marquez did try to Counter Mayweather but he couldn't because of Mays defense. Manny tried to lure traps for Marquez as well but was only met with straight right hands. The only advantage that Manny has over Mayweather is his punching power and nothing else. His defense comprises of simply putting his guard up to avoid punches. His counter punching sucks and so does his timing.

Yes but in your own words, only at certain times. Also knowing he was behind the cards, Jmm tried to push his luck on the last few rounds giving Floyd a lot more opportunities to counter.

[hugh grant]

How can floyd be classed as better offensively when he dont know what the word means? He will never care about entertaining a crowd so he wouldnt throw a punch if he could help it.

He waits for his opponents to punch and if they dont, he dont. Dont call him offensive. The only thing offensive about him is some think hes the best in the world.

[BuckToothed]

How can floyd be classed as better offensively when he dont know what the word means? He will never care about entertaining a crowd so he wouldnt throw a punch if he could help it.

He waits for his opponents to punch and if they dont, he dont. Dont call him offensive. The only thing offensive about him is some think hes the best in the world.

HAHAHA, ROFL... I hope you don't mind if I use that line.

[Chopper417]

How can floyd be classed as better offensively when he dont know what the word means? He will never care about entertaining a crowd so he wouldnt throw a punch if he could help it.

He waits for his opponents to punch and if they dont, he dont. Dont call him offensive. The only thing offensive about him is some think hes the best in the world.

Overall this may be your best post to date, you legitimately make me laugh out loud. Thank you for the entertainment

[Chopper417]

It's amazing how people still don't understand styles make fights.

Against Pacquiao, Marquez can do what he does best - play the role of the counter puncher. Pacquiao will come in and attack and that's when Marquez unleashes his counter shots. He is the perfect style for Pacquiao.

Against Mayweather however, Marquez was forced to play the role of the aggressor and floyd played the role of the counter puncher, and that is not marquez' game. He's not nearly as effective walking forward, while floyd is the one setting traps.

This is some simple ass stuff right here you'd think "hardcore" boxing fans would understand right away but apparently not.

You are completely right dude, and yes Mayweather was a nightmare matchup for Marquez, however the fact is that people SEVERELY exagerate Marquez being the aggressor in the Mayweather fight. Marquez WAS NOT walking Floyd down the entire fight as you indicate above, that simply is not what happened, period. I mean look at the knock down, Floyd hit Marquez with a leaping left hook, not a counter at all, Floyd threw first. So yes, bad style matchup for Marquez, but no Marquez was not leading or walking Floyd down for the entire fight, don't get carried away.

[Cash Cow]

How can floyd be classed as better offensively when he dont know what the word means? He will never care about entertaining a crowd so he wouldnt throw a punch if he could help it.

He waits for his opponents to punch and if they dont, he dont. Dont call him offensive. The only thing offensive about him is some think hes the best in the world.

So why cant the offensive juggernaut land over 200 punches ON JMM IN THREE FIGHTS

[Cash Cow]

You are completely right dude, and yes Mayweather was a nightmare matchup for Marquez, however the fact is that people SEVERELY exagerate Marquez being the aggressor in the Mayweather fight. Marquez WAS NOT walking Floyd down the entire fight as you indicate above, that simply is not what happened, period. I mean look at the knock down, Floyd hit Marquez with a leaping left hook, not a counter at all, Floyd threw first. So yes, bad style matchup for Marquez, but no Marquez was not leading or walking Floyd down for the entire fight, don't get carried away.

I agree, people make it seem like jmm was roberto duran the fight. Floyd was more the aggressor than jmm was

[Cash Cow]

Can we see Floyd's stats vs Cotto and Margarito to get a better idea? Better yet, can we compare De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton? You left out knockdowns, wouldn't that be an offensive stat that needs to be counted?

Are cotto,margarito,de la hoya and hatton counter punchers

[Cash Cow]

How did their respective offences stack up in fights with their other common opponents? How about the Mosley, Hatton, and DLH fights? Or would you just be defeating yourself with your own logic?

well since jmm went 12 rounds with pac three times and he is a counter puncher like