Floyd is a better offensive fighter than Manny! Pac-JMM & PBF-JMM fights prove it.

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  • Cash Cow
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    Floyd is a better offensive fighter than Manny! Pac-JMM & PBF-JMM fights prove it.


    Manny Pacquiao in 3 fights vs Juan Manuel Marquez wasnt able to land over 176 punches on JMM over the course of 7 years in 3 fights in 3 different weight classes. Floyd Mayweather on the other hand was able to land 290 punches on Juan Manuel Marquez in just one fight. This is over 100 more than Pac has ever landed on Marquez......lets look inside the #'s


    2004: Pacquiao-Marquez 1: In his first fight vs Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny Pacquiao threw 639 punches & landed 148 punches.

    2008: Pacquiao-Marquez 2: In their 2nd fight Manny Pacquiao threw 619 punches & landed 157 punches.

    2011: Pacquiao-Marquez 3: In their 3rd fight Manny Pacquiao threw 578 punches & landed 176 punches.

    2009: Mayweather-Marquez: Floyd Mayweather in his fight vs Juan Manuel Marquez threw 493 punches & landed 290!




    Pac vs JMM1 he was 148 of 639
    Pac vs JMM2 he was 157 of 619
    Pac vs JMM3 he was 176 of 578

    Mayweather vs Jmm he was 290 out of 493


    If Pacquiao's offense is so amazing and better than Mayweather then why has he never been able to dominate Marquez in 3 fights the way Mayweather did in 1? Why was Mayweather able to land 290 punches on JMM (coming off a 16 month layoff while JMM was ranked #2 P4P in the world coming off 2 great KO wins) and Pacquiao coming off his greatest training camp ever (and fighting Marquez 2 years after Mayweather dominated him) unable to land more than 176 punches on a 38 year old Marquez?



    It has taken Pacquiao 7 years, 36 rounds, 1836 punches thrown and only landed 481 AND STILL he hasnt clearly beat Juan Manuel Marquez

    CompuBox PunchStat Report

    Floyd Mayweather W 12 Juan Manuel Marquez
    09/19/2009 LAS VEGAS


    Total domination by Floyd who held Marquez to single digit connects in every round. Floyd distributed his attack, landing 59%of his power shots and 59% of his jabs. Floyd landed more jabs each round than Marquez did total punches.



    Last edited by Cash Cow; 11-20-2011, 01:58 AM.
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    #2
    Those stats r sick.......

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      #3
      Originally posted by MJ223
      Those stats r sick.......
      Mayweather threw less punches, landed more, took less punishment loss ZERO rounds...and fought 24 less rounds...lol

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      • madsweeney
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        #4
        Why don't you post comparative stats for all their common fights

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          #5
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          Why don't you post comparative stats for all their common fights
          because JMM is a counter puncher so essentially they should do the same things to Pac.

          Mayweather doesnt fight like Hatton or De La hoya or Mosley...but why would you even want to use those fights....

          Hatton was already ko'ed by Maywea...aww nevermind you know the deal already...

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            I think its cause JMM styles give his problems...

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            • madsweeney
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              #7
              Originally posted by Cash Cow
              because JMM is a counter puncher so essentially they should do the same things to Pac.

              Mayweather doesnt fight like Hatton or De La hoya or Mosley...but why would you even want to use those fights....

              Hatton was already ko'ed by Maywea...aww nevermind you know the deal already...
              So you're omitting the styles of both fighters, and cherry picking the style of their opponent....in order to "prove" the superiority of Floyd's offense?!?

              Did JMM fight as a counter puncher against Floyd? Oh wait, he was the aggressor?!?

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                #8
                Originally posted by madsweeney
                So you're omitting the styles of both fighters, and cherry picking the style of their opponent....in order to "prove" the superiority of Floyd's offense?!?

                Did JMM fight as a counter puncher against Floyd? Oh wait, he was the aggressor?!?
                No......JMM is a counter puncher...

                is Hatton?..Oscar?

                so if manny is going to face Mayweather the best fights to look at Manny vs a counterpuncher is.........wait for it...............


                wait for it.....






                JMM

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                  #9
                  It's amazing how people still don't understand styles make fights.

                  Against Pacquiao, Marquez can do what he does best - play the role of the counter puncher. Pacquiao will come in and attack and that's when Marquez unleashes his counter shots. He is the perfect style for Pacquiao.

                  Against Mayweather however, Marquez was forced to play the role of the aggressor and floyd played the role of the counter puncher, and that is not marquez' game. He's not nearly as effective walking forward, while floyd is the one setting traps.

                  This is some simple ass stuff right here you'd think "hardcore" boxing fans would understand right away but apparently not.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #10
                    from recent memory in a fight where floyd was choosing to lead(vs ortiz) he missed, alot, and big, it was almost laughable

                    he landed only when he countered

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