Has paquiao really gotten that much better???

[Jack Napier]

he's had 4 fights at Lightweight. He's gotten dropped once.
thats 1/4 which is 25% LOL

furthermore in those 4 fights he's knocked out 3 out of the 4 opponents. which is a 75% KO ratio at Lightweight.

He can't take a punch yet, he got up and still took more rounds and Pacquiao couldn't stop him.
Hell I don't blame Pacquiao for wanting every possible advantage against him.

It seems like every fight after the Cotto fight has been a "stay busy fight" while he waits for Mayweather.

not dropped literally, agreed that was once
proper wording would be rocked, staggered, etc
the guy has a heart, but not a chin
he's Pac's nemesis 126-130, that's been proven
but above 135 he's a fish out of water
we didn't need the Floyd fight to prove he's nothing past LW
and you're right, everything post Cotto is filler
Floyd is the only one who can challenge him, but Floyd won't do it
this 3rd JMM fight is a guilty pleasure fight, nothing more

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Yes Pac wins because of catch-weights...

F'ing ******.

If you think Roach pushes so hard for CWs for no reason your a fool , Im not saying he wins because of , Im saying it has lot to do with the result .

[Cash Cow]

he got better since he started fighting weight drained damaged goods at catch weight ..and if they're signed by top rank then even an easier fight..gtfo here with this catch weight fraud.

David Diaz = No defense or movement, (c class fighter)

Weight Drained Oscar = No defense or movement, (washed up)

Cotto @ a catchweight = No defense and when he did employ movement it was running. (Never beat a world champ for a belt until he beat Yuri Foreman, won all his titles in vacant title bouts)

Clottey = C class fighter who didnt show up to fight and came to collect a check, no movement

Margarito= an over hyped c class fighter who got caught cheating, come forward brawler with no defense

Mosley= after Mayweather already dominated him, coming off a horrible draw. @154 vs Mora,

[Cash Cow]

If you think Roach pushes so hard for CWs for no reason your a fool , Im not saying he wins because of , Im saying it has lot to do with the result .

Oscar @147
Cotto @145
Clottey @147
Margarito @150
JMM @147

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the catchweight in this fight is to accommodate JMM :laugh:
and do you HONESTLY think he'd do any better vs Pac at JWW?

The CW advantages Pac and disadvantages JMM anyone that knows a little more than a fan would know this ,,, I didnt think you were as ignorant to the weight scene like the fanboy *******s are , maybe you is .

[Jack Napier]

The CW advantages Pac and disadvantages JMM anyone that knows a little more than a fan would know this ,,, I didnt think you were as ignorant to the weight scene like the fanboy *******s are , maybe you is .

you're too old for this man :laugh:
Pac is coming down in weight
how the fuck does that disadvantage JMM?
****** motherfucker :laugh:

[jrosales13]

If you think Roach pushes so hard for CWs for no reason your a fool , Im not saying he wins because of , Im saying it has lot to do with the result .

He has won one legit fight with a catch-weight and a bogus with a catch-weight.

JCC received a gift draw Whitaker with a catch-weight. Pavlik couldn't touch B-Hop with a catch-weight. P-Will got KTFO with a catch-weight.

You tell me why he pushes me? What result does it have to do?

[Cash Cow]

Freddie Roach : No Catchweight for Marquez! 147 or no fight!

If you think Roach pushes so hard for CWs for no reason your a fool , Im not saying he wins because of , Im saying it has lot to do with the result .

Freddie Roach : No Catchweight for Marquez! 147 or no fight!

According to trainer Freddie Roach, any fighter who wants to face Manny Pacquiao from the junior welterweight division, or below, will have to move up the full welterweight limit of 147-pounds. Roach will not agree to any catch-weight between 140 and 147. If Juan Manuel Marquez, Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley want Pacquiao, they must agree to 147 or the fight won't happen.

"We would have to fight at 147, or else, those fights won't happen. I'm not going to let Manny fight below welterweight. It's 147, we found that when Manny can eat, he's comfortable and doesn't have to worry about making weight. Manny weighed in at [144.6] for his fight with Margarito, and I know that," Roach said.

"But I'm not going to have him struggle to make any weight. So he's going to fight at 147, that's now his natural weight, and that's where we're going to campaign at."

When sizing up the different alternatives to Floyd Mayweather Jr., Roach still believes the best fight possible would come against Juan Manuel Marquez, who already faced Pacquiao twice in the past. Roach has several reasons for wanting Marquez over other options like Andre Berto and Shane Mosley.

"Because they have history between them. You know, they've fought twice, and they were close fights. They were very good fights for boxing and very competitive. Manny beat him and fought him to a draw, and Marquez knows Manny and knows what gives Manny trouble," Roach said.

"Marquez has proven that in two fights. Both fights went the distance. Marquez has been down four times in the two fights, but he's gotten up and made the fight. Marquez is a very durable guy and he's got an audience and a fan base behind him. So he's marketable."

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you're too old for this man :laugh:
Pac is coming down in weight
how the fuck does that disadvantage JMM?
****** motherfucker :laugh:

Ah now I know your just a fanboy lol ,,,, you dont know how ****** your answer is , pure boxing ignorance .

[jrosales13]

Freddie Roach : No Catchweight for Marquez! 147 or no fight!

According to trainer Freddie Roach, any fighter who wants to face Manny Pacquiao from the junior welterweight division, or below, will have to move up the full welterweight limit of 147-pounds. Roach will not agree to any catch-weight between 140 and 147. If Juan Manuel Marquez, Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley want Pacquiao, they must agree to 147 or the fight won't happen.

"We would have to fight at 147, or else, those fights won't happen. I'm not going to let Manny fight below welterweight. It's 147, we found that when Manny can eat, he's comfortable and doesn't have to worry about making weight. Manny weighed in at [144.6] for his fight with Margarito, and I know that," Roach said.

"But I'm not going to have him struggle to make any weight. So he's going to fight at 147, that's now his natural weight, and that's where we're going to campaign at."

When sizing up the different alternatives to Floyd Mayweather Jr., Roach still believes the best fight possible would come against Juan Manuel Marquez, who already faced Pacquiao twice in the past. Roach has several reasons for wanting Marquez over other options like Andre Berto and Shane Mosley.

"Because they have history between them. You know, they've fought twice, and they were close fights. They were very good fights for boxing and very competitive. Manny beat him and fought him to a draw, and Marquez knows Manny and knows what gives Manny trouble," Roach said.

"Marquez has proven that in two fights. Both fights went the distance. Marquez has been down four times in the two fights, but he's gotten up and made the fight. Marquez is a very durable guy and he's got an audience and a fan base behind him. So he's marketable."

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