Has paquiao really gotten that much better???

[gatorDelux]

IMO fromstudying his fights

it seems to me that he is about the same fighter thatfought marquez the second time and david diaz at 135

it just that he looks great and dominates these bigger guys causee he has a great chhin and can take there punches and has the power of a middle weight plus the bigger guys cant see his punches comming

because of his chin and his power he doesnt hav those huge disavantages that a smaller fighter has when moving up

IMO he is definatey more seasioned now but its more of him haveing the right style to beat bigger guys than him improving significantly

guys like marquez and morales arep4p better fighters than the welters pac beat and they are able to handle his hand and foot speed were the big guys cant captalize on openings when pac lunges in and out with his attacks

if marquez wasnt 38 i would give him as much a chance as people did for the first two fights

and i think it will be a good fight even if pacs youth ultimatly stops marquez cause jmm is a warrior and his has the style and abilty to captalize on pacs mistakkes an counter him(even if heeventually gets blown out)

your guys thoughts??

[ßringer]

Pacfans believe the myth that he is a completely different fighter now, than he was then. When pressed on this issue, they often resort to the addition of the right hand as proof of his "evolution".

When anybody who's truly watched his career closely knows his right hand was there as early as the first Morales fight.

He's the same fighter he was then. Only bigger, and with more confidence and experience to draw upon.

[Battle*Hardened]

Naw. He's just fighting guys that better fit his style now.

[ßringer]

If you truly want an example of the evolution of a fighter, two guys in recent times immediately spring to my mind : Bernard Hopkins, and Marco Antonio Barrera. Anybody who's followed their careers has to be in complete awe of the dramatic changes they ended up making to their game as they got older.

In Hopkins' case, it was essential to sustaiin longevity. In Barrera's, it was to compensate for some of his own shortcomings.

But in both cases, it was equally unexpected and amazingly well done.

[gatorDelux]

Pacfans believe the myth that he is a completely different fighter now, than he was then. When pressed on this issue, they often resort to the addition of the right hand as proof of his "evolution".

When anybody who's truly watched his career closely knows his right hand was there as early as the first Morales fight.

He's the same fighter he was then. Only bigger, and with more confidence and experience to draw upon.

exactly what i think

he doesnt have to cut as much wieght and is more experienced

its not like he is a comletly diferent fighter

and if he ko jmmits only cause jmm is 38

but i think jmm is gonna make it intersting as long as it lasts

and hopefullty it will end the weird ppv streak

[goblin213]

Well he still can't cut the ring off, that's for sure.

[jasbar]

He is better. He can counter now

[Someone88]

Well from earlier in his career definitely Pacquiao has improved a lot, he didn't have a proper amateur background and started as a Professional early so he improved during the years, not cutting as much weight along with improving his skills is why Pacquiao is so successful today.

[gatorDelux]

Well he still can't cut the ring off, that's for sure.

lulz @ ur sig

if marquez wasnt 38 i would say the fight is 50-50

[Konstantin]

I think you'd have to be blind to not see the improvement in Pacmans counter-punching skill...