Why was Mayweather jab so poor against Ortiz?

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  • V.WEBB
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    #31
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    How does having a good right hand make your jab less accurate?

    If he only landing 14% against Ortiz, he will be lucky to land 10% against Pacquiao.


    You're going to say it didn't count anyways, just cut it out.

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    • Spacey1991
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      #32
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      How does having a good right hand make your jab less accurate?

      If he only landing 14% against Ortiz, he will be lucky to land 10% against Pacquiao.
      Because he wasn't throwing it with much intent, generally the rear hand is most affective against southpaws and it was working for Floyd, so it just seemed he used his jab as more of a measuring stick and a distraction.

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      • D4thincarnation
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        #33
        Originally posted by S.G.
        He was pawing with it, using it to disguise the lead right.
        Do you think this make Mayweather have a poor jab, or does it mean he was just using it a different way, because of some of the reasons stated by others in this thread.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Spacey1991
          Because he wasn't throwing it with much intent, generally the rear hand is most affective against southpaws and it was working for Floyd, so it just seemed he used his jab as more of a measuring stick and a distraction.
          Good points.

          It must also be true for soutpaws when facing orthadox fighters.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Spacey1991
            Because he wasn't throwing it with much intent, generally the rear hand is most affective against southpaws and it was working for Floyd, so it just seemed he used his jab as more of a measuring stick and a distraction.
            exactly, he was pawing the jab out there to measure distance and distract victor as he came with the right hand behind it, couldn't have said it better myself

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            • Spacey1991
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              #36
              From what I remember as well there were times when he was just flicking it put for the sake of it, sorta just to keep busy and keep Ortiz on the back foot.

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                #37
                Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                there are many theories why his jab connect rate was so poor

                my guess after watching the fight a few times now, he was fighting a southpaw and was simply using his jab as a range finder for his right hand

                if you're being objective you can clearly see Floyd was going for the KO in this fight, hence the amount of power shots he threw

                floyd was using his jab differently than he normally does which usually is to score points
                More truth than any other post. An Orthodox's jab is significantly less effective against a southpaw while the right-cross is significantly more.

                Mayweather fought more like Pacquiao does, feels out with the jab, lands the cross at will.

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                • dan_cov
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                  #38
                  Ortiz landed 0 of 31 jabs.

                  He was countering Ortiz almost at will with left hooks & straight rights.

                  Floyd left his jab out there as a distraction for the straight right & to step in with a left hook to the body which is very effective against southpaws.

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                  • Spacey1991
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Good points.

                    It must also be true for soutpaws when facing orthadox fighters.
                    Yeah, remember when Pacquiao fought De La Hoya, he was leading with straight lefts and landing clean often.

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Spacey1991
                      From what I remember as well there were times when he was just flicking it put for the sake of it, sorta just to keep busy and keep Ortiz on the back foot.

                      Do you think the compubox stats can give a false impression on how good someone jab was in a fight. Because if they are just flicking it out, using as a range finder and feinting, it will be doing it's intended job but compubox will count it as a miss.

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