Why Are Older Boxers Over-Rated?

[JAB5239]

put your reading glasses on old man. i said at the end of each round meaning during the one minute break.

the medical advancements are there, its up to today's fighters to take full advantage of it which the majority of boxers dont do. Pac or floyd can go 15 with no problems.

You're pointing out two fighters out of all todays fighters. We're talking about era's. Do you really want to get into an argument and breakdown of which top fighters today struggle with 12 rounds in comparison to the fighters of other era's who routinely went 15? I'll be happy to oblige you if you want little boy.

[JAB5239]

Punching isnt all you do in the ring bub... thats like saying all a tennis player does is swing his racket.

Exactly bub. Defense, footwork and feinting are all lost on todays fighters compared to earlier era's. Thanks for making my point!

[Manboyeatme]

You're pointing out two fighters out of all todays fighters. We're talking about era's. Do you really want to get into an argument and breakdown of which top fighters today struggle with 12 rounds in comparison to the fighters of other era's who routinely went 15? I'll be happy to oblige you if you want little boy.

Stop plz with the 15 rounds thing.. Thats like saying hicham el guerrouj cant run a marathon because he gassed out after running the world record mile.. its all about how you PACE yourself! (lol) and energy exerted cant easily be measured simply by comparing how many punches one throws.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Because people as a whole are not progressive. They are scared of any change in the guard. Change has always had to be forced on society. There are only a few elite boxers from each era old or new. As time goes on ATG's lists expand more and more. Boxing is the worst when it comes to overrating the past. Its always the old stories that take on more credibility than actually watching the fighters and examining their skills. Its pretty easy to see that Joe Louis was limited. God forbid you say Duran had a Flaw. People are actually still say Pep won a round without throwing a punch. Hearns is invincible for anybody from the 90's on even though he was KTFO before. SRR had many flaws but they're never discussed. Only the fact that he fought 200 fights matters. JCC fought a lot of fights so he's uuntouchable unless he's fight one of the great 80's fighters. Frazier would probably crush Jack Johnson just comparing the styles but Jack was born first so I guess its absurd. Ali would toy with Louis. Frazier would lose to a lot of Heavies of recent eras just on size and power.

My point is that the sport changes like any other sport. Chances are most fighters are only good for their time and very few are ahead of their time. And it is possible that though a boxer may dominate their era they wouldnt stand a chance against the new breed of greats.

GREAT ****KING POST.


This is not that hard to understand. Just go across the board, each sport,

somebody always comes along & is the greater player;

Tennis:

rod laver to bjorn borg/jimmy connors to johnny mac to pete sampras / agassi to federer & nadal now.

Basketball:

from mikan to wilt & russell to jerry west /dr j to bird magic to mj/shaq/dream

track & field;

jesse owens to carl lewis to michael johnson to usain bolt,

golf;

from jack nicklaus arnold palmer to nick faldo greg norman to lee trevino to tiger woods....

i can keep going...

The common denominator? all of the greatest have come in modern time. The greatest always came from the 80s & up. not 60s & down.

You also made a great point about film on older fighters. its quite obvious they have physical & athletic limitations. just look at henry armstrong.

or how about harry greb?

wait, no footage exists of greb yet he's top 10 P4P ATG.

Or how about the fact that as time has gone on & equal rights where given, great white fighters started disappearing? Notice how a lot of old white fighters are at the very top of ATG rankings?

coincidence?

i dont think so.


Its called PRESERVATION OF THEIR HISTORY.

[JAB5239]

Stop plz with the 15 rounds thing.. Thats like saying hicham el guerrouj cant run a marathon because he gassed out after running the world record mile.. its all about how you PACE yourself! (lol) and energy exerted cant easily be measured simply by comparing how many punches one throws.

so tell me.....by comparing the greats of other era's compared to today.....actually watching the fights.....as a whole....why did fighter then throw more punches in more rounds, overall, than fighters do today?

[Manboyeatme]

GREAT ****KING POST.


This is not that hard to understand. Just go across the board, each sport,

somebody always comes along & is the greater player;

Tennis:

rod laver to bjorn borg/jimmy connors to johnny mac to pete sampras / agassi to federer & nadal now.

Basketball:

from mikan to wilt & russell to jerry west /dr j to bird magic to mj/shaq/dream

track & field;

jesse owens to carl lewis to michael johnson to usain bolt,

golf;

from jack nicklaus arnold palmer to nick faldo greg norman to lee trevino to tiger woods....

i can keep going...

The common denominator? all of the greatest have come in modern time. The greatest always came from the 80s & up. not 60s & down.

You also made a great point about film on older fighters. its quite obvious they have physical & athletic limitations. just look at henry armstrong.

or how about harry greb?

wait, no footage exists of greb yet he's top 10 P4P ATG.

Or how about the fact that as time has gone on & equal rights where given, great white fighters started disappearing? Notice how a lot of old white fighters are at the very top of ATG rankings?

coincidence?

i dont think so.


Its called PRESERVATION OF THEIR HISTORY.

Not sure if old ppl can comprehend this.

[Manboyeatme]

so tell me.....by comparing the greats of other era's compared to today.....actually watching the fights.....as a whole....why did fighter then throw more punches in more rounds, overall, than fighters do today?

Wait did you say more punches in more rounds... thats impossible lol.

[JAB5239]

GREAT ****KING POST.


This is not that hard to understand. Just go across the board, each sport,

somebody always comes along & is the greater player;

Tennis:

rod laver to bjorn borg/jimmy connors to johnny mac to pete sampras / agassi to federer & nadal now.

Basketball:

from mikan to wilt & russell to jerry west /dr j to bird magic to mj/shaq/dream

track & field;

jesse owens to carl lewis to michael johnson to usain bolt,

golf;

from jack nicklaus arnold palmer to nick faldo greg norman to lee trevino to tiger woods....

i can keep going...

The common denominator? all of the greatest have come in modern time. The greatest always came from the 80s & up. not 60s & down.

You also made a great point about film on older fighters. its quite obvious they have physical & athletic limitations. just look at henry armstrong.

or how about harry greb?

wait, no footage exists of greb yet he's top 10 P4P ATG.

Or how about the fact that as time has gone on & equal rights where given, great white fighters started disappearing? Notice how a lot of old white fighters are at the very top of ATG rankings?

coincidence?

i dont think so.


Its called PRESERVATION OF THEIR HISTORY.

Its a crappy post because it doesn't take into consideration field improvements, advances in equipment or PED's. None of which make any athlete better on an even playing field.

[JAB5239]

Wait did you say more punches in more rounds... thats impossible lol.

Really? Have you watched Ali or Louis compared to todays heavies? Armstrong ot Ross compared to todays welters? Diran or Benny Leonard compared to todays lightweights? I can go on and on.

[Manboyeatme]

Its a crappy post because it doesn't take into consideration field improvements, advances in equipment or PED's. None of which make any athlete better on an even playing field.

Thats the thing man its not a even playing field to the old guys because they didnt have the technology. Human beings have not changed since.. just science and that is why athletes today are superior sorry to break the news to you.