The "Myth" that Corrales was some monster before he fought Floyd

[JAB5239]

Would you have rather had Floyd fight him once he was dead, as Pac tends to to do with his opponents?

Yeah, you're not a hater with an agenda, right?

[them_apples]

Let's go beyond the hype HBO gave Corrales for a second. What made Corrales some type of force before Floyd faced him. I get that he was been hyped up, but what did he do to warrant that?

Outside of beating Manfredy, he resume looked like **** and he was beating up on bums and c-class fighters. Who wouldn't look good going against opponents like that?

Best wins prior to Floyd:

Angel Manfredy- a fighter who has never won a world title in his entire career.

Derrick Gainer- zab judah is taking his career more serious right now that Gainer was back then (which tells you all you need to know about him at that point).



BTW this has nothing to do with Floyd but everything to do with all the Hype Corrales was getting. Floyd win was very dominate and he did what he had to do, but Corrales IMO was very overated at that time.

Corrales was a good win but not a great win. I think most top tier fighters would beat him. I'd pick Marquez over him at 130. I bet he would put Marquez down at some point, but the beating he'd take in return would be horrendous.

Corrales is overated now because he died, but it was still a really good win. I think Mayweathers win over Oscar was his best win. Oscar was in a lot better shape than when he fought Pacquiao IMO.

Mayweathers win over Hatton on the other hand, isn't really that great. Aside from the 0, Hatton doesn't have his strength advantage at 147, without that he certainly doesn't have the skills to **** with any good WW. On top of that Mayweather struggled with him.

[rod_serrs]

I was knee deep into boxing back then, but why don't you answer my question, Mr. Boxing Scholar, and post a win that warrented the hype. I say this because since "I don't know **** about boxing", maybe you can enlighten me on this subject.

I think the point that they are trying to make is that despite the fact that you call his opposition bums many were veterans, had experience, and he was a champ at the time. The fact that he was a KO artist warranted him all the hype. Much like Pavlik today. Prior to the Taylor fight he was supposed to be a monster. He had unwarranted hype and exposure due to the sole reason he had power.

[Khalid X]

Every single person on ESB and BS.COM have been watching boxing since they were 3 years old...

What ever man, just know that Corrales was the Marcos Maidana back then. 10 years from now there will be a kid just like you talking about how Marcos Maidana was no threat to Timothy Bradley because he only beat Ortiz who never won a championship, Victor Cayo who was not very good, and lost a controversial close decision to Kotelnik who was never really any one.

Fair enough. I never said he wasn't a threat. Winky wright was a threat to any 154lb but that doesn't warrent the hype. I also agree Maidana is a threat, but at the same time HBO isn't hyping him up as some type of monster like the were with Corrales back then.

I have stated this over and over again, It has nothing to do with Floyd's win or Corrales even being a threat, this has to do with why HBO was hyping him up as some monster. I remember watching them talk about how he destroyed Manfredy as a reason he would beat Floyd.

[Equinox]

Corrales did not have a longer reach then Floyd. And, he is saying he did. Is he not making it up?

Great win by Floyd not once have I said anything negative about that fight. But, don't say something which is not true.

Do we understand each other now Zarco?

I bet right after he said that you googled every single thing about that, just stop trying to sound like you are a boxing encyclopedia and correcting every single little thing your google can get you to because you will never be able to correct some one who talks April 2007 140lb rankings.

[BoxerDood]

Every single person on ESB and BS.COM have been watching boxing since they were 3 years old...

Actually some started watching on December 6th, 2008 and others started watching on May 5th, 2007 LOL


But on the subject, I can see where O.S.I.R.I.S. is going with this topic. Corrales hadn't really done very much before the fight. He's not saying Corrales didn't turn out to be great, or that Floyd doesn't deserve credit for the dominant performance.

As others have mentioned, a lot of fighters live off of hype. That's where Golden Boy/Top Rank prospect come in. Paul Williams had a lot of hype as a prospect, and he hadn't faced anyone before Margo. Ortiz also had a lot of hype as a prospect, and hadn't done much before the Maidana fight either. Its all about the promotion. Sometimes they're accurate with the hype and sometimes they're not, for an example Jeff Lacy.

[cixthree]

Homie I acknowledge he did great things afterwards, I'm just asking what warranted HBO hyping him up as such a force. Nothing on his resume justified it at the time, that's all I'm saying.

I'm sitting here stuck..... if u don't understand it why not research it?
Corrales was a beast period, no matter the opponent. The hype came from what he had done and what he could possably do to Floyd.
Floyd waxed him, he went on to do great things which tells u rite there that he was no joke.

I'm not saying ur hating but if u know the def it sounds like it. Floyd woulda waxed him even after the hype "was" warranted. Just leave it at that

[jrosales13]

I bet right after he said that you googled every single thing about that, just stop trying to sound like you are a boxing encyclopedia and correcting every single little thing your google can get you to because you will never be able to correct some one who talks April 2007 140lb rankings.

I actually didn't google everything he said. Maybe I should since he did say one lie....

[rambov]

lol at corrales not being a beast at 130...lol

[Khalid X]

I'm sitting here stuck..... if u don't understand it why not research it?
Corrales was a beast period, no matter the opponent. The hype came from what he had done and what he could possably do to Floyd.
Floyd waxed him, he went on to do great things which tells u rite there that he was no joke.

I'm not saying ur hating but if u know the def it sounds like it. Floyd woulda waxed him even after the hype "was" warranted. Just leave it at that

Why should i research it when I was following boxing just as close back then, as I do now. I have always thougth this because I knew Manfredy was never a great fighter. Good, but not great, and I was actually a fan of his back in the day (he had that I don't give a ****/live on he edge type of attitude similar to Tapia)

I agree Floyd would have waxed him regardless, but that has nothing to do with this. This is soley about HBO hyping guys up that haven't accomplished much. It's cool to do so, but I hate when they fool the public...like they were by saying Corrales looked more impressive against Manfredy than Floyd. his whole hype was based off of how he dismattled Manfredy, but Angel was never great to begin with.