The "Myth" that Corrales was some monster before he fought Floyd

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  • jrosales13
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    #81
    Originally posted by check hook
    Cotto is a godd boxer/puncher.........but he was lucky to get past Judah....a quitter........

    Cotto is very very good......but he ain't a monster like Tito.......

    Tito vs Cotto at 147???


    Tito by KO.
    Of course he is not Tito. And, yes a prime Tito at 147 destroys him.

    But, I don't think he was lucky against Zab Judah. I personally thought he gave Judah a hell of a beating...

    And, I think against Quintana that was just scary how he disfigured Quintana face the way he did. And, Quintana had momentum going into that fight.

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    • check hook
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      #82
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I think he said Corrales was a great win for Floyd. I am not sure if that is what he was getting at...

      I don't know, I can't speak for him.

      All I know that is a great win for Floyd. Dominant victory he was just amazing that night. Everything was on point. That is the best performance I have seen of him against an elite fighter. Because, Corrales at the time was an elite SFW.


      apologies but **** like this post right here are pissing me off:


      Fighters Fraudulent Yelloweather jr. Didnt Fight/Ducked:

      At 135

      Stevie Johnston
      Joel Casamayor
      Leonard Dorin
      Acelino Freitas
      Paul Spadafora

      He fights Jose Luis Castillo 2x, Victoriano Sosa, & Phillip Ndou instead.

      At 140

      Kostay Tszyu
      Ricky Hatton
      Miguel Cotto
      Vivian Harris

      He fights Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruselles, & Arturo Gatti instead.

      At 147 (this is gonna be good)

      Shane Mosley
      Miguel Cotto
      Antonio Margarito
      Paul Williams
      Joshua Clottey
      Luis Collazo
      Kermit Cintron
      & now Manny Pacquiao

      He fights Sharmba Mitchell, Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, & Juan Manuel Marquez instead.

      At 154

      Corey Spinks
      Roman Karmazin
      Vernon Forrest

      He fights Old Oscar instead. (cant really blame him but he still didnt fight the top guys).



      Side note: Fraudlent Mayweather Jr. was a 130 up until 11-10-2001. One division below him 126 had fighters named;

      Erik Morales
      Marco Antonio Barerra
      Manny Pacquiao
      Naseem Hamed
      Juan Manuel Marquez


      good nite now *****s.



      i mean read that ****...............you wonder why the Pac fans get trashed on this forum when they post **** like this..!!!!!

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      • flyest1
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        #83
        Corrales was a beast at 130. I'll admit that he did struggled with Robert Garcia's boxing skills when he won the IBF 130 Belt. One punch changed the entire fight.It was a great win for Floyd. Both cleaned out 130 until they were the last ones standing.

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          #84
          Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
          Let's go beyond the hype HBO gave Corrales for a second. What made Corrales some type of force before Floyd faced him. I get that he was been hyped up, but what did he do to warrant that?

          Outside of beating Manfredy, he resume looked like **** and he was beating up on bums and c-class fighters. Who wouldn't look good going against opponents like that?

          Best wins prior to Floyd:

          Angel Manfredy
          - a fighter who has never won a world title in his entire career.

          Derrick Gainer- zab judah is taking his career more serious right now that Gainer was back then (which tells you all you need to know about him at that point).



          BTW this has nothing to do with Floyd but everything to do with all the Hype Corrales was getting. Floyd win was very dominate and he did what he had to do, but Corrales IMO was very overated at that time.
          I think floyd deserves a lot of credit for beating diego corrales although there were a lot of extenuating circumstances going into the fight for corrales. There were rumors that he wasnt 100% healthy for that fight & all of his legal troubles. He didnt fight until 2003 after that loss. Never the less, that was a big win for floyd. Now in terms of all time great rankings & how great of a fighter corrales is, well that's another story. If you look at the big picture corrales is a very good fighter but just below hall of fame status in my opinion. The only other top 10 p4p fighter corrales beat after his loss to floyd was castillo.


          Originally posted by daggum
          he was just another jeff lacy when floyd fought him. big powerful guy who was easy to outbox. unlike lacy he actually had a good career after his first loss although he lost all 3 casamayor fights not sure how he got the decision in the 2nd fight.
          a little harsh but some truths. some. Corrales did beat a undefeated acelino freitas. The only problem is that none of these guys are what you would classify as hall of great fighters. casamayor, corrales, castillo, freitas, corrales are imo very good fighters. Not great if you look at judging their careers entire scope.

          Originally posted by jreckoning
          I heard Valero handled Pac in sparring.

          I don't care what the hype is, I wouldn't mind seeing that fight.

          Corrales was very good and up and coming, but Floyd whupped that ass good.

          Doesn't mean Corrales wasn't good, it's just Floyd was on another level at that weight.
          There have been so many conflicting accounts of that story. Freddie roach said that they never sparred because he was scared of valero, some reporters said they did spar & valero more than held his own, Ive seen a pacquiao video where he says that they did spar & that valero was not a big deal at all. Very murky story. Becoming an urban legend.

          Originally posted by Ray*

          Fighters live on hype, Fans live on hype, Boxing lives on hype.. The mark of a fighter after defeat is what they do after that and after losing to Mayweather corrales went on to win belts, Big fights and made a better name for himself, And the Mayweather that fought corrales then was a green one too.

          Fighters are not only judge on what they did but after a fight, Prince Naz after lossing to Barrera went on to fight once and retire which tells us Naz was done before he even fought Barrera...If Cotto goes on and beat good fighters in the next two years it would make Pacquiao's win over him even better because people cant turn around and say **** but what did morales do after Pacqauio beat him? Hatton? De la Hoya? which all tells me they were almost done or done by the time they face Pacquiao..
          But you have to look at the big picture. Looking at their overall careers, how great were Corrales & the opponents that he faced? I wouldnt classify none of them as great fighters or hall of fame worthy. By the time Pacquiao fought morales & barerra they were considered great fighters who have beaten or stepped into the ring with other great fighters. Barerra went on a big winning streak after he lost to pacquiao only to lose to marquez who was at that time a p4p player & classified as a great fighter on his way to the hall of fame.

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            #85
            Originally posted by flyest1
            Corrales was a beast at 130. I'll admit that he did struggled with Robert Garcia's boxing skills when he won the IBF 130 Belt. One punch changed the entire fight.It was a great win for Floyd. Both cleaned out 130 until they were the last ones standing.


            Exactly....they cleaned house and fought each other........and Floyd stomped on him!!!!!

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              #86
              Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
              Let's go beyond the hype HBO gave Corrales for a second. What made Corrales some type of force before Floyd faced him. I get that he was been hyped up, but what did he do to warrant that?

              Outside of beating Manfredy, he resume looked like **** and he was beating up on bums and c-class fighters. Who wouldn't look good going against opponents like that?

              Best wins prior to Floyd:

              Angel Manfredy
              - a fighter who has never won a world title in his entire career.

              Derrick Gainer- zab judah is taking his career more serious right now that Gainer was back then (which tells you all you need to know about him at that point).



              BTW this has nothing to do with Floyd but everything to do with all the Hype Corrales was getting. Floyd win was very dominate and he did what he had to do, but Corrales IMO was very overated at that time.

              Mike cmon this thread is crap. Corralles went on to still be a beast after he fought Floyd.

              How was he garbage when he was the Number 5 P4P.

              This was the P4P List.

              1. Shane Mosley
              2. Felix Trinidad
              3. Roy Jones Jr.
              4. Oscar De La Hoya
              5. Diego Corrales
              6. Naseem Hamed
              7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
              8. Lennox Lewis
              9. Erik Morales
              10. Bernard Hopkins


              He was ranked over Hamed, Floyd himself, Lennox, Morales and Hopkins.

              Nice try bro. Corralles was taking heads off and was one of the most intimidating and menacing boxers around at that time and Floyd wiped his ass with him.
              Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 04-16-2010, 10:54 PM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Mike cmon this thread is crap. Corralles went on to still be a beast after he fought Floyd.

                How was he garbage when he was the Number 5 P4P.

                This was the P4P List.

                1. Shane Mosley
                2. Felix Trinidad
                3. Roy Jones Jr.
                4. Oscar De La Hoya
                5. Diego Corrales
                6. Naseem Hamed
                7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                8. Lennox Lewis
                9. Erik Morales
                10. Bernard Hopkins


                He was ranked over Hamed, Floyd himself, Lennox, Morales and Hopkins.

                Nice try bro. Corralles was taking heads off and was one of the most intimidating and menacing boxers around at that time and Floyd wiped his ass with him.

                revisionist history at it's finest..........

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                • Khalid X
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Mike cmon this thread is crap. Corralles went on to still be a beast after he fought Floyd.

                  How was he garbage when he was the Number 5 P4P.

                  This was the P4P List.

                  1. Shane Mosley
                  2. Felix Trinidad
                  3. Roy Jones Jr.
                  4. Oscar De La Hoya
                  5. Diego Corrales
                  6. Naseem Hamed
                  7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  8. Lennox Lewis
                  9. Erik Morales
                  10. Bernard Hopkins


                  He was ranked over Hamed, Floyd himself, Lennox, Morales and Hopkins.

                  Nice try bro. Corralles was taking heads off and was one of the most intimidating and menacing boxers around at that time and Floyd wiped his ass with him.

                  thx you just prove my point. Why was he rated over those guys when he beat an average at best angel manfredy and garbage ass gainer (dude was not taking his career serious at that time).

                  I mean Morales was straight beasting folks, as was Hamed....yet Corrales was over those guys?

                  BTW who wouldn't look great destroying bums? those other fighters proved themsleves against elite fighters, unlike corrales, and I always wondered why he was so hyped back then. This has nothing to do with Floyds win (full credit and was one of the most dominating performances).


                  Just for ****s n giggles, what would you say If the ring rated Valero over Pavlik, Mosley, Vitali, and someone like Bradley because of his KO record and win over demarco? Wouldn't you be saying the same thing if HBO was hyping up Valero as this indestructible force?

                  again this has nothing to do with Floyds win, Corrales career afterwards, but the hype etc he was getting and was it deserved. I posted this because people keep saying he was a monster prior to facing Floyd, yet nothing leading up to his fight with May proves thats.

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                  • DE100
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    thx you just prove my point. Why was he rated over those guys when he beat an average at best angel manfredy and garbage ass gainer (dude was not taking his career serious at that time).

                    I mean Morales was straight beasting folks, as was Hamed....yet Corrales was over those guys?

                    BTW who wouldn't look great destroying bums? those other fighters proved themsleves against elite fighters, unlike corrales, and I always wondered why he was so hyped back then. This has nothing to do with Floyds win (full credit and was one of the most dominating performances).


                    Just for ****s n giggles, what would you say If the ring rated Valero over Pavlik, Mosley, Vitali, and someone like Bradley because of his KO record and win over demarco? Wouldn't you be saying the same thing if HBO was hyping up Valero as this indestructible force?

                    again this has nothing to do with Floyds win, Corrales career afterwards, but the hype etc he was getting and was it deserved. I posted this because people keep saying he was a monster prior to facing Floyd, yet nothing leading up to his fight with May proves thats.
                    This has nothing to do with Floyds win (full credit and was one of the most dominating performances)

                    ^ You keep posting this, but if you describe Corrales to be what you think... what is so dominating about that performances? He just beat another over hype regular guy to you.

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                    • AddiX
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                      #90
                      Diego beat Casamayor, Freitas, and Castillo all in a row.

                      It is considered by most boxing enthusiast and writers the best back to back to back win of our time in boxing.

                      At that time, beating all 3 of those guys was insane. Floyd never fought 2/3 of them and lost to castillo.

                      Can't even understand how someone can Knock Diego or Floyds win over him.

                      This is some real hater ****.

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