Sorry Ali fans, Usyk has replaced him as “The Greatest” Heavyweight.

[HisExcellency]

Kids, what can you say.
Frazier(2-1)
Foreman(1-0)
Norton(1-1, suffered a broken jaw during his decision loss)
Bob Foster(1-0)
Floyd Patterson(2-0)
Jimmy Ellis(1-0)
Sonny Liston(2-0)
Usyk is good but hasn't faced this kind of competition. But then again, fans nowadays think canelo is the last coca-cola in the desert.

True but you can't overlook the fact that Usyk is a natural Cruiserweight (unlike Ali) who stepped up and defeated the best Heavyweights of his generation TWICE without going down once to become undisputed champion twice.

Can't really ask for any more than that.

[The Big Dunn]

True but you can't overlook the fact that Usyk is a natural Cruiserweight (unlike Ali) who stepped up and defeated the best Heavyweights of his generation TWICE without going down once to become undisputed champion twice.

Can't really ask for any more than that.

While you can’t count his crusier run toward HWT, it’s that run that helps position him high on the ATG list imo.

[HisExcellency]

While you can’t count his crusier run toward HWT, it’s that run that helps position him high on the ATG list imo.

Yes becoming undisputed champion at Cruiserweight whilst handing tough guys like Breidis & Gassiev their first ever loss CEMENTS his ATG status when looked at in conjunction with his Heavyweight achievements. Although Ali is the superior Heavyweight with the better resume, the fact that Usyk is the smaller man who began his career at Cruiserweight and beat the best Heavyweights of his generation TWICE puts him in the ATG Heavyweight top 5.

[garfios]

True but you can't overlook the fact that Usyk is a natural Cruiserweight (unlike Ali) who stepped up and defeated the best Heavyweights of his generation TWICE without going down once to become undisputed champion twice.

Can't really ask for any more than that.

Ali would weight 210 pounds back in the day, where was no cutting weight technic. Do you think a 210 pounds guy couldn't go down to 190/200 pounds with the right diet and program? He won a gold medal if I recall correctly at Light Heavy. I think the comparison is pointless and have no merit. Usyk is good but his body of work in the division lacks substance, AJ and Fury, and fans are proclaiming he is the best that ever live.

[The D3vil]

Where is this list of top fighters that Tyson was mowing down in one or two rounds?

Not Smith, Tucker, Ruddock, Holyfield, Douglas, Lewis...

He mowed down Bruno and Spinks.

LOL, he beat Spinks a top 5 P4P fighter in the world, who beat Holmes twice in 90 seconds.

He beat former champ Trevor Berbick, who beat Ali in 2 rounds

He beat Carl Williams (who really beat Holmes) in 90 seconds as well

He beat former WBA champ Tony Tubbs in 2 rounds

[Toffee]

LOL, he beat Spinks a top 5 P4P fighter in the world, who beat Holmes twice in 90 seconds.

He beat former champ Trevor Berbick, who beat Ali in 2 rounds

He beat Carl Williams (who really beat Holmes) in 90 seconds as well

He beat former WBA champ Tony Tubbs in 2 rounds

I already mentioned Spinks. You added Tubbs, Berbick and Williams... not the most impressive list to be honest. Not compared to the fighters I listed that he didn't 'mow down'.

Spinks stands alone as a top fighter that Tyson 'mowed down'. Personally I'd give him Bruno too.

Typically though, when faced with good competition, he didn't mow his opponents down. He beat them late, or outpointed them, or got beaten.

[Dakuwaqa]

lol he’s beaten a couple of stiff Brit bums.

AJ and DDD are both garbage

The wins against Fury are legit and combine it with his CW and he’s definitely a one of the best of all time. His record is nowhere near good enough to be considered number 1 though

[RapidFireGTP]

Usyk would get knocked the **** out by Holyfield and Tyson but you dumbasses are saying he's better than Ali

Pass me that L your smoking, must be some GOOD ****

[Mmann2e]

This is a ****** conversation which has no merit as again none of these men have fought each other nor could they. The triangle method needs to die and this fantasy boxing idea needs to disappear

[The D3vil]

I already mentioned Spinks. You added Tubbs, Berbick and Williams... not the most impressive list to be honest. Not compared to the fighters I listed that he didn't 'mow down'.

Spinks stands alone as a top fighter that Tyson 'mowed down'. Personally I'd give him Bruno too.

Typically though, when faced with good competition, he didn't mow his opponents down. He beat them late, or outpointed them, or got beaten.

And?

That's what you need to do with less than great fighters, which is my point.

All of those fighters are better than Chazz Witherspoon & Derek Chisora, who Usyk struggled with.