Yes because 8 fights at HW and beating 3 big british stiffs twice, surpasses everything Ali accomplished over his career, along with at least 30 other HW's. You got it fan boy.
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Originally posted by Da Pimper View PostPeople also overlook Usyk’s unbelievable cruiserweight run.
Dude beat:
Undefeated Gassiev
Undefeated Breidis
Undefeated Hunter
Undefeated Glowacki
Took all their 0s and fought them in foreign territory.
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Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post
Ali had flaws and made mistakes and had failures. Usyk has no flaws, never made a mistake and has never failed in pro boxing.
Ali was beaten by the sport in the end and was a punching bag at 37. Usyk is better than ever at 38.?!?!?
Ali could have fought well into his 90's in this de****able HW era.
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Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post
Every era is the same, brutally tough. Every has the champ and contenders with flaws. Usyk has no flaws and solves every puzzle.
Every era is the same but perceptions of eras varies. Nobody can prove Joe Frazier could beat Chisora or AJ.
This era is the lamest, softest, least HOFers.....
When a person rolls out Chisora as a force to be reckoned with, that tells you all you need to know about that era.
Usyk and Fury
Maybe AJ and Wilder
Will be remembered 3 years after they retire.
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Originally posted by Jacobson View PostWe are all nostalgic, but we have to be objective too.
Comparing Usyk to Ali boxing-wise
-Athletes far bigger/stronger in modern era, boxing more globalized
-Olympic gold, World Championship gold, World Cup silver vs just Olympic gold
-GOAT Cruiserweight career
-Moved up to HW and destroyed Joshua 2x, Fury 2x, Dubois 2x as a MUCH smaller man
-Won most of his fights on the road in enemy territory vs mostly U.S. for Ali
-Undefeated at 38 vs Ali’s multiple losses and gifts (Frazier, Norton, Spinks, etc)
Comparing Usyk to Ali outside the ring
-Usyk is always respectful, never trash-talks even when disrespected. Ali often taunted opponents, made inflammatory racial remarks, deeply hurt good people like Frazier and hurt their children too.
-Usyk is a true family man who never committed adultery or disrespected women, especially his wife. Ali was a serial adulterer, hurt many women.
-Ali was a hero to his people, but so is Usyk, who is a hero to not only the Ukrainian army and people, but to all of Western Europe and the entire Free World against Russian tyranny.
-Ali was constantly boastful and called himself great. Usyk is never boastful, never calls himself great, instead gives ALL glory to Jesus Christ.
As a boxer, as a man, Usyk is as close to perfection as it gets. He is a better ambassador and role model for boxing than Ali could ever be. He’s the kind of guy that young athletes should model themselves afterwards. He’s the epitome of conquering evil with good, and going high when others go low.
He is Christ-like, he is risen.
He is The Greatest Heavyweight of all time, but he would never say that of himself.
The legend of Oleksandr Usyk is just beginning.
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Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post
Evidently not
This era is the lamest, softest, least HOFers.....
When a person rolls out Chisora as a force to be reckoned with, that tells you all you need to know about that era.
Usyk and Fury
Maybe AJ and Wilder
Will be remembered 3 years after they retire.
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I think too many people are just still buzzed by the win Saturday. It was awesome no doubt but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Someone mentioned Usyk will be an ATG and that's no doubt. Though no way he exceeds Ali's accomplishments when he fought his career at heavyweight against some monsters.
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Originally posted by Jacobson View PostWe are all nostalgic, but we have to be objective too.
Comparing Usyk to Ali boxing-wise
-Athletes far bigger/stronger in modern era, boxing more globalized
-Olympic gold, World Championship gold, World Cup silver vs just Olympic gold
-GOAT Cruiserweight career
-Moved up to HW and destroyed Joshua 2x, Fury 2x, Dubois 2x as a MUCH smaller man
-Won most of his fights on the road in enemy territory vs mostly U.S. for Ali
-Undefeated at 38 vs Ali’s multiple losses and gifts (Frazier, Norton, Spinks, etc)
Comparing Usyk to Ali outside the ring
-Usyk is always respectful, never trash-talks even when disrespected. Ali often taunted opponents, made inflammatory racial remarks, deeply hurt good people like Frazier and hurt their children too.
-Usyk is a true family man who never committed adultery or disrespected women, especially his wife. Ali was a serial adulterer, hurt many women.
-Ali was a hero to his people, but so is Usyk, who is a hero to not only the Ukrainian army and people, but to all of Western Europe and the entire Free World against Russian tyranny.
-Ali was constantly boastful and called himself great. Usyk is never boastful, never calls himself great, instead gives ALL glory to Jesus Christ.
As a boxer, as a man, Usyk is as close to perfection as it gets. He is a better ambassador and role model for boxing than Ali could ever be. He’s the kind of guy that young athletes should model themselves afterwards. He’s the epitome of conquering evil with good, and going high when others go low.
He is Christ-like, he is risen.
He is The Greatest Heavyweight of all time, but he would never say that of himself.
The legend of Oleksandr Usyk is just beginning.
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