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Sorry Ali fans, Usyk has replaced him as “The Greatest” Heavyweight.

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Pete_The_Man View Post
    What great fighters has Usyk he beat ?

    I mean, the reason why great fighters get called that is because they have beaten other greats. So the floor is yours

    Fury AJ Dubois Chisora are all about the same level as Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Liston, Lyle. I say Chisora beats Frazier.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post

      Fury AJ Dubois Chisora .
      demented-giggles.gif

      Of the 4 you mentioned, maybe Fury is a HOFer
      I had to edit out most of your nonsense
      Del Bum of all people.......Joe Hipp murderizes him

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      • #63
        Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

        demented-giggles.gif

        Of the 4 you mentioned, maybe Fury is a HOFer
        I had to edit out most of your nonsense
        Del Bum of all people.......Joe Hipp murderizes him
        You cant prove Foreman and Lyle beat Chisora and AJ. The fact is Usyk is perfect, he makes no mistakes and make everyone look second rate. That's what greats do. This guy said it first. https://ringobserver.com/usyk-is-the-goat/

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post

          You cant prove Foreman and Lyle beat Chisora and AJ. The fact is Usyk is perfect, he makes no mistakes and make everyone look second rate. That's what greats do. This guy said it first. https://ringobserver.com/usyk-is-the-goat/
          Only you mention Del Bum in a non insulting way
          His only claim to "fame" was losing 4x to a glorified nightclub bouncer.

          Usyk is perfect in a very, VERY, imperfect HW era.
          He wouldn't get past Bowe, Ike, Tua, M Spinks and these are 2nd tier names.

          "Can't prove....."
          Once the top 4 guys (Fury, AJ, Usyk, Wilder) retire, let's see how they are remembered
          If at all.

          Fans like you make people not like certain boxers because of your hyperlove.
          Usyk is the best HW of this era.
          This era was complete trash.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post

            You cant prove Foreman and Lyle beat Chisora and AJ.
            Prove to me Usyk beats Ali
            Prove to me Del Bum beats Frazier

            Gatti > SRL
            "Prove" me wrong !

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            • #66
              I think Usyk is 100% in the discussion with all the greats/legends. Hard to say he’s the goat though.

              I personally wouldn’t say he is, and I’m a huge Usyk fan.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

                Prove to me Usyk beats Ali
                Prove to me Del Bum beats Frazier

                Gatti > SRL
                "Prove" me wrong !
                Ali had flaws and made mistakes and had failures. Usyk has no flaws, never made a mistake and has never failed in pro boxing.

                Ali was beaten by the sport in the end and was a punching bag at 37. Usyk is better than ever at 38.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

                  Only you mention Del Bum in a non insulting way
                  His only claim to "fame" was losing 4x to a glorified nightclub bouncer.

                  Usyk is perfect in a very, VERY, imperfect HW era.
                  He wouldn't get past Bowe, Ike, Tua, M Spinks and these are 2nd tier names.

                  "Can't prove....."
                  Once the top 4 guys (Fury, AJ, Usyk, Wilder) retire, let's see how they are remembered
                  If at all.

                  Fans like you make people not like certain boxers because of your hyperlove.
                  Usyk is the best HW of this era.
                  This era was complete trash.
                  Every era is the same, brutally tough. Every has the champ and contenders with flaws. Usyk has no flaws and solves every puzzle.

                  Every era is the same but perceptions of eras varies. Nobody can prove Joe Frazier could beat Chisora or AJ.

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                  • #69
                    Yes because 8 fights at HW and beating 3 big british stiffs twice, surpasses everything Ali accomplished over his career, along with at least 30 other HW's. You got it fan boy.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Da Pimper View Post
                      People also overlook Usyk’s unbelievable cruiserweight run.

                      Dude beat:
                      Undefeated Gassiev
                      Undefeated Breidis
                      Undefeated Hunter
                      Undefeated Glowacki

                      Took all their 0s and fought them in foreign territory.
                      Those guys were all B level at best. CW skill level sucks in general. Gassiev is basic as hell can't even throw a job. Huck sucks also. Briedis only good fighter on that list.

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