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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View PostI know you’re not the brightest of sparks but how can Dubois be a contender when he’s IBF champion?
Usyk-Dubois, Kabayel-Parker, I’d like to see Bakole-Zhang too.
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Originally posted by Nash out View PostI'd be interested to see Moses Itauma vs Kabayel. Jalolov in a big fight as well. The thing is a lot of the best heavyweights of recent years are past their best now. Fury, Wilder, Joshua. Then even the contenders of that age/era are ancient. Chisora, Zhang, Joyce, Whyte, tons more. Parker is 33, I think, but you could say he's as good as ever, but compare Joyce from the time he beat Parker, to Joyce now, and his decline is at least 50%. Fury has lost all of his speed and stamina, age, the Fury fights, and Malik Scott killed Wilder off, Joshua's confidence nose-dived after losses, and as I said, age as well. The old guard all need replacing at some point. Usyk will be gone in a year or two as well, so people need to step up. I like what I see of Moses. Very fast, powerful and very confident. Those tools are hard to deal with. Can he take a shot? I guess that's what we need to find out. Nash out - His Most Majestic MajestyNash out likes this.
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Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
Dubois IBF champ? What a load. That belt was contested between two guys who'd already lost to Usyk while he rematched the man ranked above them in every credible rankings. The IBF belt has barely more credibility than the IBO belt (which Usyk also holds) or one of the WBC's commemorative trinkets. Dubois got stopped by Usyk with a jab to become his first knockout victim at heavyweight. Come on now.Last edited by Elastic Recoilz; 02-23-2025, 03:05 PM.Nash out likes this.
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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View PostI know you’re not the brightest of sparks but how can Dubois be a contender when he’s IBF champion?
Usyk-Dubois, Kabayel-Parker, I’d like to see Bakole-Zhang too.
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Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post
You say that but on another night, with another ref, and on another weekend which wasn't a celebration of Ukraine independence (in Poland with a big Ukrainian support) Dubois would've been awarded a knockdown which could've led to a possible KO, who knows. It was a heavy shot and Usyk looked in considerable distress. As for it being a low blow... I think the trajectory of the punch was from down to up - about 3% of the connection grazed his cawk at best while the remaining 97% landed flush on the beltline. I feel Usyk definitely milked that situation, If you watch his fights he is one of those guys who is constantly complaining to ref about low blows.
Add to that the fact that ringside observers heard the impact on the cup, and this as1nine narrative has no substance whatsoever. You can see his navel above his shorts before and after the low blow, so the belt line is LOW, and observers from the dressing room briefing confirmed that was what Dubois was told.
Note also that they didn't even try to protest at ANY time during the fight. They didn't protest at ALL until some media talking head gave them that excuse, and then Frank Warren jumped all over it. I guarantee that Daniel Dubois and his corner knew it was low. Heck, he put his own glove over his own cup while he was waiting on the corner.
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Originally posted by Nash out View PostI'd be interested to see Moses Itauma vs Kabayel. Jalolov in a big fight as well. The thing is a lot of the best heavyweights of recent years are past their best now. Fury, Wilder, Joshua. Then even the contenders of that age/era are ancient. Chisora, Zhang, Joyce, Whyte, tons more. Parker is 33, I think, but you could say he's as good as ever, but compare Joyce from the time he beat Parker, to Joyce now, and his decline is at least 50%. Fury has lost all of his speed and stamina, age, the Fury fights, and Malik Scott killed Wilder off, Joshua's confidence nose-dived after losses, and as I said, age as well. The old guard all need replacing at some point. Usyk will be gone in a year or two as well, so people need to step up. I like what I see of Moses. Very fast, powerful and very confident. Those tools are hard to deal with. Can he take a shot? I guess that's what we need to find out. Nash out - His Most Majestic Majesty
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Originally posted by Bronson66 View PostTo throw 20 years old, 10 fight Itauma into a fight with Kabayel now would be criminal.Time is on his side,he needs seasoning against some decent opponents who will give him rounds not top 5 unbeaten contenders.
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