Who is more likely to be able to beat a prime Jon Jones in a street fight Ali or Mike Tyson ?

[TheProudLunatic]

A level above WWE

[IronDanHamza]

I'm not sure how this sentence actually relates to the previous one. Werent we talking about kickboxing? a sport boxers have embarrassed themselves in repeatedly due to having zero defence against kicks.

You seem to be just throwing random **** to see what sticks.

“A leg kick won’t do anything in street fight”

I would love to see Mike Tyson’s reaction to one single calf kick from Alex Perriea

[TMLT87]

Super low quality opps

Measured by what criteria? who can beat them?

only the most foaming at the mouth fans know who they are.

Couldnt you say the exact same thing about boxing?

The level of star power in both sports is very comparable nowadays.

[TMLT87]

A level above WWE

Those Pride FC events, second half of the promotions lifespan especially, are among the greatest spectacles theres ever been in combat sports, I would say peak K1 was the only thing that compared. Turki level stacked cards but on a regular basis and with huge crowds going crazy.

Dunno why anyone who is into combat sports would try to **** on that stuff.

[dan_cov]

Dillion Danis could pull guard against a prime 1988 Mike Tyson and within 30 seconds Mike Tyson would be mounted and finished via any sub he chooses.

What in the flying fuck do you honestly think happens if Dillion Danis manages to pull guard on Mike Tyson? Entertain me and tell me what you actually think would happen in that scenario in where those two people are on the floor grappling.

The reality is Danis would take one look at a prime Tyson and cross the Road.
Even in straight up Jiu-jitsu Danis would very likely struggle purely based on Tysons low centre of gravity, weight and enormous strength advantage. Not saying Tyson would win but Danis would very likely struggle.
Its easy to say he'd choke Tyson etc have you ever tried putting a guy with a 20" extremely short neck in a guillotine? Its not easy.

Its all hypotheticals the reality is this Danis has had 2 street fights that we know of and have on tape he is 0-2, that is reality. Am I really expected to believe a guy who got choked out by a fat bouncer and lit up by a Youtuber in Street fights beats well virtually anyone let alone Tyson
We have countless videos of Tyson in real fights and we have countless first hand eye witnesses reports of Tyson fighting real fighters, real Street thugs and destroying them, again reality. Tyson wasn't fighting your average Joes he was knocking out legitimate martial artists and boxers.
Why didn't Wesley Snipes use all his millions of black belts and jiu-jitsu skills vs Tyson? Because its easier said than done and most of them do not spar, have zero punch resistance and aren't used to getting hit. Champion swimmers who never got wet!

This whole jiu-jitsu thing is almost Steven Seagal and aikido levels of hypothetical situations. If the opponent does this or this guy pulls guard and does this

Its always imagine if when reality is I don't need to it'd just be **** and Danis is flat out.
He wouldn't last 5 seconds with Tyson. He's a b1tch and can't fight at all.

[dan_cov]

These pure jiu-jitsu guys don't even fare well in the UFC/MMA.

Maia, hm, that is about it unless you want to go back to the Gracies who was just tapping out morbidly obese bouncers

Boxing alone has had more success by far than jiu-jitsu alone despite the sport being practically centred clean around it.

[dan_cov]

“A leg kick won’t do anything in street fight”

I would love to see Mike Tyson’s reaction to one single calf kick from Alex Perriea

In the Street it won't do much at all until the adrenaline has worn off. Why do people act like one leg kick and you'll be completely incapacitated?

Again its completely different in the Street a guy on the Street isn't going to stand static or be calculated and looking to check the kick, they will almost certainly be bum rushing you.
The best counters for a kick is too crowd it or throw a straight.

We've seen plenty out of shape 40 odd yr old boxers eat plenty of leg kicks from much better kickers than Alex and take them.
Do they hurt, sure. Likely to end a fight with one kick? Absolutely not.

[IronDanHamza]

The reality is Danis would take one look at a prime Tyson and cross the Road.
Even in straight up Jiu-jitsu Danis would very likely struggle purely based on Tysons low centre of gravity, weight and enormous strength advantage. Not saying Tyson would win but Danis would very likely struggle.

You are saying things here that is flat out lunacy.

You are actually trying to argue here that Mike Tyson vs Dillion Danis in a Jiu Jitsu match that Danis would struggle? He would tap him in 30 seconds. It would be as one sided as gang rape as David Haye would put it.

Its easy to say he'd choke Tyson etc have you ever tried putting a guy with a 20" extremely short neck in a guillotine? Its not easy.

Actually, yeah I have. And it is easy, if someone has zero experience.

I've only just got my blue belt after 4 years of starting BJJ and the idea that is difficult to guillotine someone because they have a thick neck is sheer fantasy and objectively incorrect.

Its all hypotheticals the reality is this Danis has had 2 street fights that we know of and have on tape he is 0-2, that is reality. Am I really expected to believe a guy who got choked out by a fat bouncer and lit up by a Youtuber in Street fights beats well virtually anyone let alone Tyson

That wasn't a fight that was a man getting apprehended from behind by a security guard.

We have countless videos of Tyson in real fights and we have countless first hand eye witnesses reports of Tyson fighting real fighters, real Street thugs and destroying them, again reality. Tyson wasn't fighting your average Joes he was knocking out legitimate martial artists and boxers.

What in the made up Hollywood fantasy land are you living in.

We have countless videos of Mike Tyson in real fights? Er, do we? Like which? Post them here so we can have a gander.

Mike Tyson was knocking out legitimate Martial Artists? Oh really. Name one.

Why didn't Wesley Snipes use all his millions of black belts and jiu-jitsu skills vs Tyson? Because its easier said than done and most of them do not spar, have zero punch resistance and aren't used to getting hit. Champion swimmers who never got wet!

Erm, Wesley Snipes doesn't have a black belt in anything and he's an actor. Are you trolling at this point? I refuse to believe these points are even serious.

When did Wesley Snipes fight Mike Tyson? Are you talking about the film Undisputed where he fought Ving Rhames that was loosely based on Mike Tyson? If you are, that isn't a real thing, it's a film.

This whole jiu-jitsu thing is almost Steven Seagal and aikido levels of hypothetical situations. If the opponent does this or this guy pulls guard and does this

Ok again if this is actually not a joke then it's beyond lunacy. It's so far beyond the realms of reality I struggle to believe anyone with even one working brain cell would say this in a serious way.

Its always imagine if when reality is I don't need to it'd just be **** and Danis is flat out.
He wouldn't last 5 seconds with Tyson. He's a b1tch and can't fight at all.

I'm sure you are convinced of that.

But over here in reality no boxer stands any kind of realistic chance in a fight where they aren't heavily protected by their very specific rule set. That's just the long and short of it.

Denying that is one of two things, just that, flat out denial to the point of delusion. Or, genuine, honest, (but extreme) naivety.

[IronDanHamza]

These pure jiu-jitsu guys don't even fare well in the UFC/MMA.

Maia, hm, that is about it unless you want to go back to the Gracies who was just tapping out morbidly obese bouncers

Boxing alone has had more success by far than jiu-jitsu alone despite the sport being practically centred clean around it.

Well Jon Jones isn't a "pure Jiu Jitsu guy" is he so it's irrelevant.

[IronDanHamza]

In the Street it won't do much at all until the adrenaline has worn off. Why do people act like one leg kick and you'll be completely incapacitated?

Tell me you have never ever been kicked in the leg without telling me you have never ever been kicked in the leg

If Alex Perriera kicked Mike Tyson in his leg ONE TIME yes he would be on the floor crying more than likely.

Again its completely different in the Street a guy on the Street isn't going to stand static or be calculated and looking to check the kick, they will almost certainly be bum rushing you.
The best counters for a kick is too crowd it or throw a straight.

Yeah man "juz bum rush him, bro!!!" See how that works out.

We've seen plenty out of shape 40 odd yr old boxers eat plenty of leg kicks from much better kickers than Alex and take them.
Do they hurt, sure. Likely to end a fight with one kick? Absolutely not.

Is there a reason you keep throwing these absolutely WILD claims out there?

We have seen, plenty of out of shape 40 odd year old boxers, eat plenty of leg kicks from much better kickers than Alex and take them?

Really.....LIKE WHO? Please just name ONE.