Comments Thread For: One Punch From Nery Keeps Crawford in the P4P Debate

[crimsonfalcon07]

Abolish this p4p nonsense. Yall wanna talk about who would win these mythical matchups when 99% of boxers have business that they wont even settle in their own fughin division. Top guys wont fight each other, the guys that deserve a shot wont get it because of this “high risk, low reward” bullshih and champions wont even unify with one another. Fugga p4p!!! Take care of home first. I swear boxing is trash but i love the sport. Smdh

Then you probably should credit the guy who actually IS making the fights against the top guys. He's fought the best guy in the division in his divisional debut 3 times and the only fights that could possibly count as tuneups were mandatories ordered by the alphabet organizations, or weaker guys who had still won a world title.

[Elheath]

Spence has to be considered P4P in order to keep Bud on top. Because most of the arguments in favor of Bud being top P4P always boil down to "well Spence is better than anyone on Inoue's resume." I personally NEVER thought Spence deserved to be on the list, just as I don't rate Tank Duckis. But if he's not P4P and first ballot HOF, then people start questioning why welterweight accomplishments mean more than accomplishments in other divisions.

I got just as much WTF with Tank on it too, but Spence is even more of a mystery so I focused on him. By the way, along with the P4P debate it also brings up the other interesting debate for 2023...who wins the Fight of the Year and Fighter of the Year?

Usyk/Fury or Beterbiev/Bivol (IF it occurs later this year) will probably win the Fight of the Year given the meaning of those matches. Depending on the quality maybe Crawford/Madrimov can put in for an argument as well given that it may make Crawford an unified champion in his fourth weight class. However barring an injury Inoue is likely ending this year with three wins against: Nery, Goodman, and MJ who's the top 3-5 guys of 122 to clear out the top 5 before likely moving up early next year. Would just one win from those matches be enough to warrant Fighter of the Year, given the big question is whether the US-oriented Ring will be willing to give the Fighter of the Year to the same non-American two years in a row?

[rickJen]

There are many of us who couldn't care less about this current P4P rankings nonsense.
Every fight is different. And it shouldn't end there as if it's time to retire. Seeing a fighter active is more important to many fans,
not fighting once a year doing nothing but stroke one's ego.

[Spartacus26]

he does not. his resume over the last couple years has been mediocre and he flat out ducked the #1 guy in his division. if innoue said i cant fight fulton i need 200 million dollars he would be out of the running as well. if innoue said fulton needs to beat figueroa and then he goes and does it and then afterwards still doesnt fight him inoue would be out of hte runnning. thats what canelo did to benavidez when he told him to fight plant. basically you cant be a coward and be the best because you lose by default when you are scared to fight. he also ducked a third ggg fight till he was 40, had rehydro clauses for kovalev and jacobs, was dominated by bivol, fights teeny tiny men moving up in weight etc...not p4p worthy things.

Mate, If somehow our paths should ever cross, allow me to buy you a good fresh,bubbly mug of quality Ale !! Thank you for being the only one with the intestinal fortitude to CALL IT LIKE IT IS in the curious case Of The fraudulent Canelo Alvarez. Well done sir and tons of respect to you

[markbnlv2024]

Inoue seemed energized by the knockdown almost happy I was extremely impressed he got up and dismantled the clearly bigger man

[HandsofIron]

But wait isn't that the same reason Inoue got kd? Due to a technical mistake and his opponent Nery capitalizing on it?

No, Crawford carried mean machine to the point where he started to showboat and show off by switching stances is what I'm saying. Due to Crawford not taking the fight seriously and messing around with the switch hitting, he too almost got KO'ed.

[factsarenice]

What's a closet boxing fanatic? Lol

I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote for the Times and used a fake name to write sport pieces. He can't just be just some off the rack boxing journalist and if it is then he's wasting his time on sports. Meat heads have no appreciation for the arts, not even the art of boxing. I can say that because I'm half meat head.

[factsarenice]

Right now, Crawford, Inoue and Usyk are keeping the soul of boxing alive, and for that I'm thankful.

[hugh grant]

No, Crawford carried mean machine to the point where he started to showboat and show off by switching stances is what I'm saying. Due to Crawford not taking the fight seriously and messing around with the switch hitting, he too almost got KO'ed.

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Seems like your overanalyzing or making excuses. Maybe inoue was just too casual a bit like Lewis was against rahman

[Elastic Recoilz]

For me I take achievements as the most important criteria when considering P4P fighters so for me although personally I rate Inoue very highly I'd have to put Crawford as P4P #1 because he achieved undisputed status in the welterweight division - traditionally a glamour division in boxing and what he did in said division was unprecedented. Similarly IF Beterbiev was to KO Bivol when they eventually fight that would be a very impressive feat for me - KO'ing everyone he fought and becoming undisputed in the process. I see that as genuine P4P material. Also Usyk beating everyone away from home at cruiserweight to become undisputed and potentially becoming undisputed at heavyweight puts him in that bracket... Ultimately, as numerous people have alluded to P4P is subjective and we all have different opinions.

Don't make me laugh about Canelo being mentioned in these discussions though! Anyone who fails 2 drugs tests, fought at catchweights multiple times and weight bullied so many of his opposition can never be considered - not to mention he is refusing to fight his mandatory of 3 years...