Comments Thread For: Derrick James Hints at Rift With Errol Spence Jr., Focuses on Other Charges

[BlackRobb]

but spence was seen as a killer ever since those fights up until losing to TC!!! so if spence was that bad since the brook fight then why was spence seen as a killer on here???? dont act like fans on here wasnt hyping spence up until the loss to TC.... spence was held to such a high standard on here, looked at as a killer, etc... there was never any mention of how bad spence looks against brook, porter, ugas, etc.... now after the loss to TC, ya saying spence has been looking bad since the brook fight? where was any mention of this on here??? can you bump those post up?

It's called REVISIONIST HISTORY, something most fans with an unhealthy agenda have. Trying to reason with these folks is like trying to pick up an electric eel barehanded.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

That's laughable. No same person, pundit or fan, ever believed this was a 50/50 fight. Nothing in Errol's arsenal indicated he was on Bud's level. I'm just mad I couldn't find more suckers to bet.

Every major bookmaker had it as a pick em.

Feel free to post your bet slip where you bet your life savings on Crawford as you knew it was such a sure thing. I’ll wait…

[crimsonfalcon07]

Every major bookmaker had it as a pick em.

Feel free to post your bet slip where you bet your life savings on Crawford as you knew it was such a sure thing. I’ll wait…

TBF BlackRobb is on record multiple times saying that Crawford was going to knock Spence out before the fight.

Spence doesn't have a better chin than Porter, though. The thing you don't realize is that Crawford doesn't throw caution to the wind and shoot his full load when he gets an opponent hurt. Every shot is precise, well-placed and has a purpose. Another fact is that Bud's output always goes up after Round 6. Spence won't change that. The more Errol bores in and throws, the more counterpunching opportunities he will give Crawford. Crawford is the deadliest counterpuncher in the sport. He gets foes hurt and they don't hang around for 12 rounds like Little Mikey and Danny did with Spence.

If this fight goes late, it will be Spence who is in deep waters because after a few rounds, he runs out of ideas and becomes predictable and vanilla.

Spence is very basic and static in his boxing. He's also not light on his feet. He's accurate and efficient, but his power is overrated. I have a very strong feeling Crawford will stop him late. Boots Ennis will present more severe problems for Bud than Spence will.

He was one of the people who agreed with me that Spence was really overhyped. I questioned why Spence was considered P4P multiple times. Figure it's solely because he was fighting at 147 and the westerners making the lists are biased towards the division that housed some of the greats. Heavyweights and welterweights tend to be P4P more frequently than other divisions. Often comes down to where the hype is, not really who has actually achieved more or who has the skills.

[TheOneAboveAll]

TBF BlackRobb is on record multiple times saying that Crawford was going to knock Spence out before the fight.





He was one of the people who agreed with me that Spence was really overhyped. I questioned why Spence was considered P4P multiple times. Figure it's solely because he was fighting at 147 and the westerners making the lists are biased towards the division that housed some of the greats. Heavyweights and welterweights tend to be P4P more frequently than other divisions. Often comes down to where the hype is, not really who has actually achieved more or who has the skills.

A ton of people believed Crawford was the better fighter, and many of us predicted a one-sided victory for Bud, but that doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of fans considered it a competitive or even a pick 'em fight going in. They may not post about it much these days, but there were just as many hardcore fans on this and other forums who picked Spence to win. Vegas gave the edge only slightly to Bud

[Gary Coleman]

but spence was seen as a killer ever since those fights up until losing to TC!!! so if spence was that bad since the brook fight then why was spence seen as a killer on here???? dont act like fans on here wasnt hyping spence up until the loss to TC.... spence was held to such a high standard on here, looked at as a killer, etc... there was never any mention of how bad spence looks against brook, porter, ugas, etc.... now after the loss to TC, ya saying spence has been looking bad since the brook fight? where was any mention of this on here??? can you bump those post up?

You're exaggerating my point. I didn't say that Spence was a bum that just that he made the same mistakes from fight to fight and that it caught up with him vs Crawford.

Derrick James's job was to help mitigate those mistakes and help Errol grow as a fighter. He didn't. He thought he could come in with the same ol gameplan and that would be enough.

[anonymous2.0]

The first L casualty is often the trainer so not surprised. Since it's so late in Errol's career it usually less likely but not unheard of.

Breadman said the most thankless job in boxing is the trainer.

[Eff Pandas]

I'd like to get your thoughts on this? Is is time for Shakur to leave Top Rank?

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Shakur has been saying he wanted to test his free market value so I'm not surprised TR isn't letting him go out on a high note. Or is trying to keep the offers he gets down cuz he almost for sure has a matching rights clause with his TR deal that will probably keep him at TR unless this relationship is truly broken & TR declines to match his best offer.

This is why anyone with name value to do 500k+ gate or is doing PPV's on the reg shouldn't be signing anything other than a multi fight (3 fight max) deal. If Shakur does get loose he shouldn't do a long term deal with whoever he signs with & I think hes intelligent enough to do just that.

[Eff Pandas]

Breadman said the most thankless job in boxing is the trainer.

Idk that I'd disagree with him.

I would say they have the least on the line to tho so it makes sense. Boxers are in the ring risking everything. Promoters are taking on the financial risk. The trainer is just getting one of likely many of his boxers ready for one fight & hes not risking a dollar or his health.

[Smash]

derrick: errol get back on the horse and do a rematch with bud right away, best option
errol: huh

[MulaKO]

derrick: errol get back on the horse and do a rematch with bud right away, best option
errol: huh

Was never in the plans , the rematch that is
And now the whispers of him getting Tazoo
The PBC trademark of freezing Bud out