Jesse Rodriguez has one of the best resumes in the business.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Irrelevant stats
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Crawford has ONE signature win IN HIS CURRENT WEIGHT CLASS. And said signature win is believed to have been weight drained.

Bam made history in his early 20’s when he beat Rungvisai and not only became the youngest titlist in the business, but dominant destruction of a guy who decimated then-P4P guy Chocolatito. Spence had no win close to what Rungvisai had done - twice. So no, Crawford beating him doesn’t move the needle anywhere close to Bam beating Rungvisai.

Bam beat two of his “Four Kings” when he decimated Carlos Cuadras for another title. Spence beat three of his “Four Kings” for belts, all opponents at their physical peak while Spence was physically compromised for two of them. The other King was a title defense.

Crawford fought and beat one of the Kings, believed to be weight drained, and the other after delaying the fight over a faked injury that threw off camp.

Bam broke down and stopped the #1 flyweight in the world. Nobody had Spence as the #1 welterweight.

So

[Elheath]

Crawford has ONE signature win IN HIS CURRENT WEIGHT CLASS. And said signature win is believed to have been weight drained.

Bam made history in his early 20’s when he beat Rungvisai and not only became the youngest titlist in the business, but dominant destruction of a guy who decimated then-P4P guy Chocolatito. Spence had no win close to what Rungvisai had done - twice. So no, Crawford beating him doesn’t move the needle anywhere close to Bam beating Rungvisai.

Bam beat two of his “Four Kings” when he decimated Carlos Cuadras for another title. Spence beat three of his “Four Kings” for belts, all opponents at their physical peak while Spence was physically compromised for two of them. The other King was a title defense.

Crawford fought and beat one of the Kings, believed to be weight drained, and the other after delaying the fight over a faked injury that threw off camp.

Bam broke down and stopped the #1 flyweight in the world. Nobody had Spence as the #1 welterweight.

So

Bam defeated Cuadras first for the vacant WBO 115 belt, then defended against SSR when SSR didn't have a belt.

Doesn't change the fact it was no doubt a damn impressive job by Bam and made him the youngest active champion and even moreso especially considering he hadn't fought in super fly in over 3 years, then had a 5 day notice, but just for clarification.

[BenjaminLinus]

Donaire - war torn/Ionue got his jaw broken
Fulton - shouldve lost to Figueroa/war torn.
Butler - Brit level trash

See how that works vato loco?

Donaire was resurgent down at 118 where he was undefeated. He had 2 highlight reel KOs before the first Inoue fight and then he had 2 more highlight reel KOs after. Beat undefeated champs in style.

Fulton beat Figueroa in a very close fight and there was no widespread anger about the decision like Haney-Loma. And he put on a 12-0 clinic on Daniel Roman before he fought Inoue. Also, Inoue was jumping up in weight and fought Fulton with no tune-up.

Yeah, Butler is a domestic Brit level bum, but he did put on an impressive dominating performance against Sultan and he's a 2X title holder.

But nice try, you low income scum.

LOL!

[ShoulderRoll]

What kind of warped logic is that?

Mayweather and Pacquaio were 38 and 36 when they were P4P #1 and #2 and WW #1 and #2.

One of Mayweather's best wins at WW was against Mosley who was #1 at WW and #3 P4P and he was 38 years old, approaching 39.

Are you going to tell me there was no depth to the WW division in 2010 and 2015? Or like usual do you only use these fallacy arguments when they suit your agenda?

Was Narvaez at 39 the equal of Floyd and Pac and Mosley at their ages?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Bam defeated Cuadras first for the vacant WBO 115 belt, then defended against SSR when SSR didn't have a belt.

Doesn't change the fact it was no doubt a damn impressive job by Bam and made him the youngest active champion and even moreso especially considering he hadn't fought in super fly in over 3 years, then had a 5 day notice, but just for clarification.

Srisaket was a king regardless of a belt because of his wars with the other Kings AND his destruction of the P4P.

It was the fly/superfly equivalent of Gainer beating Norwood or Barrera schooling Hamed. An underdog overcoming the odds against THE guy regardless of title status.

[BenjaminLinus]

Bam defeated Cuadras first for the vacant WBO 115 belt, then defended against SSR when SSR didn't have a belt.

Doesn't change the fact it was no doubt a damn impressive job by Bam and made him the youngest active champion and even moreso especially considering he hadn't fought in super fly in over 3 years, then had a 5 day notice, but just for clarification.

Cuadras and Rungvisai were shot to smithereens, guy.

[Elheath]

Srisaket was a king regardless of a belt because of his wars with the other Kings AND his destruction of the P4P.

It was the fly/superfly equivalent of Gainer beating Norwood or Barrera schooling Hamed. An underdog overcoming the odds against THE guy regardless of title status.

By the way when comparing only their 115 accomplishments, out of those four I consider Estrada and SSR at a higher tier than Chocolatito, and Cuadras as a solid level or two below them all.

Estrada has only lost once in 115. He defeated Cuadras in eliminater but lost the title bout to SSR. But then he won the rematch with SSR, defeated Cuadras again then defeated Chocolatito twice.

SSR was the first to win a 115 belt in 2013 until he lost it in 2014 to Cuadras, but then regained and defended them by defeating Choco twice and Estrada once. He lost them to Estrada in 2020 then was lost to Bam in 2022.

Choco won his first match in 115 against Cuadras to get the belt in 2016, but then lost to SSR consecutively to lose the belt. He won another belt from Kal Yafai in 2020, but then lost to Estrada twice as well in 2021 and 2022.

Cuadras won a belt only once in his whole career, which was against SSR in 2014 with was a head clash TD. That was the only title win in in his career, having lost to Choco in 2016 to lose the belt, then lost to Estrada in 2017 for the eliminator to face SSR for his belt, lost the Estrada rematch in 2020 again for his belt, then lost to Bam in 2022 for the vacant belt.

[IronDanHamza]

Was Narvaez at 39 the equal of Floyd and Pac and Mosley at their ages?

What does it matter? You're using solely his age on the surface as a measuring stick and somehow concluding the division must be weak due to that.

Navarez was the #1 in the division at 39 just as Floyd was #1 in the division at 38 in 2015 and Mosley was #1 in the division at 38 in 2010.

Are you going to hold Floyd the same standard and deem those two WW era's as "weak due to the #1 guy being 38"?

Or is this going to be another "Ngannou is assuredly on PED's whilst Floyd is clean" moments where your double standards are so transparent it's not even laughable it's just sad?

[Regge]

Cuadras and Rungvisai were shot to smithereens, guy.

Stop with the BS Rungvusai had one defeat before his run and it was only to Estrada in a competitive fight then Bam destroys him and since Rungvusai has been on a 5 fight win streak. Cuadras just won the interim title....nice try though. Lol

[famicommander]

Crawford has ONE signature win IN HIS CURRENT WEIGHT CLASS. And said signature win is believed to have been weight drained.

Bam made history in his early 20’s when he beat Rungvisai and not only became the youngest titlist in the business, but dominant destruction of a guy who decimated then-P4P guy Chocolatito. Spence had no win close to what Rungvisai had done - twice. So no, Crawford beating him doesn’t move the needle anywhere close to Bam beating Rungvisai.

Bam beat two of his “Four Kings” when he decimated Carlos Cuadras for another title. Spence beat three of his “Four Kings” for belts, all opponents at their physical peak while Spence was physically compromised for two of them. The other King was a title defense.

Crawford fought and beat one of the Kings, believed to be weight drained, and the other after delaying the fight over a faked injury that threw off camp.

Bam broke down and stopped the #1 flyweight in the world. Nobody had Spence as the #1 welterweight.

So

You're a delusional clown. Horn had the belt when Crawford beat him, no matter how he got it you can't blame Crawford for taking it from him. Kavaliauskas was ranked, Porter was a ranked former 2X welterweight world titlist, and Spence was the top ranked opponent available and a 3 belt unified world titlist. And Crawford stopped them all.