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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #51
    Originally posted by famicommander

    Crawford's wins over Ricky Burns, Ray Beltran, Yuriorkis Gamboa, and Viktor Postol were fantastic wins at the time. To pretend otherwise is revisionist fanboy nonsense. His resume at welterweight is padded by some faded names like Khan and Brook, plus Horn who probably didn't deserve to get the W over Pac in the first place, but the Porter and Spence wins were both great wins.
    Bold is all that matters.

    Otherwise I’ma need NSB to stop discrediting Canelo’s past victories.

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    • famicommander
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      #52
      Originally posted by Leicesterage

      Bold is all that matters.

      Otherwise I’ma need NSB to stop discrediting Canelo’s past victories.
      You seem to be engaged in a debate with an imaginary, faceless collective whose opposition justifies any nonsensical thing you say. Seek help.

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        #53
        Originally posted by famicommander

        You seem to be engaged in a debate with an imaginary, faceless collective whose opposition justifies any nonsensical thing you say. Seek help.
        The point is, you’re bigging up Crawford while in the same lines admitting what I said - which is that he has the worst resume of the Top 10. And none of his wins come close to Bam’s. Not even Spence.

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        • Elheath
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          #54
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          The fact that Narvaez was still #1 at almost 40 years old tells you how poor the depth in that weight class was. There’s no way around it.

          It’s cool to beat the best guys in the division, but it’s not unfair to ask how that division compares to others.
          Narvaez was 39 and Donaire was 36 and 39 when they first fought.

          Usyk is 36 and will be 37 by the time Fury fights him next spring IF it happens.
          Beterbiev is 38 and will be 39 by the time Bivol fights him IF they actually fight next year.
          Crawford is 36 and P4P #1.
          Loma is 35 and still considered in the top tier at 135.
          GGG was 35, 36, and 40 when Canelo fought him.

          By your argument all those guys being at or near the top of the division at their respective ages just shows that the division itself is poor and doesn't have anything to do with their abilities being great even at an older age. So if by a bizarre turn of event Ennis ends up fighting and defeats Crawford next year (not happening but for example sake), it won't be worth much to Ennis because Crawford is 36 and is an example that shows that welterweight has poor depth? /s

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            #55
            OP is a fvkcing loser

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            • famicommander
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              #56
              Originally posted by Leicesterage

              The point is, you’re bigging up Crawford while in the same lines admitting what I said - which is that he has the worst resume of the Top 10. And none of his wins come close to Bam’s. Not even Spence.
              No. Crawford is a 3 division lineal champion. Bam is a 0 division lineal champion. Crawford has 10 wins against world titlists, Bam has 3. Your irrational hatred for Crawford undermines your credibility in all other contexts. Anyone with half a brain can see that Crawford would be a Hall of Famer even if he had retired after the Indongo fight.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                The fact that Narvaez was still #1 at almost 40 years old tells you how poor the depth in that weight class was. There’s no way around it.

                It’s cool to beat the best guys in the division, but it’s not unfair to ask how that division compares to others.
                What kind of warped logic is that?

                Mayweather and Pacquaio were 38 and 36 when they were P4P #1 and #2 and WW #1 and #2.

                One of Mayweather's best wins at WW was against Mosley who was #1 at WW and #3 P4P and he was 38 years old, approaching 39.

                Are you going to tell me there was no depth to the WW division in 2010 and 2015? Or like usual do you only use these fallacy arguments when they suit your agenda?

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BenjaminLinus
                  Carlos Cuadras = war torn, completely shot to smithereens, came off of a KO loss to Estrada

                  Wisaksil Wangek = war torn, completely shot to smithereens

                  Looked terrible against Israel Gonzalez and then got his jaw cracked by Christian Gonzalez and should have lost that fight...

                  And then Sunny Edwards is just pure Brit level trash.
                  Donaire - war torn/Ionue got his jaw broken
                  Fulton - shouldve lost to Figueroa/war torn.
                  Butler - Brit level trash

                  See how that works vato loco?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Leicesterage

                    It’s fine to celebrate that ONE signature win.

                    Nobody celebrated Manny after getting one win. Let’s be consistent
                    Wo, so you are giving Spence a credit for beating Porter, but you won`t give Crawford a credit for beating the same guy.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                      Wo, so you are giving Spence a credit for beating Porter, but you won`t give Crawford a credit for beating the same guy.
                      Spence beat FIVE TOP 5 WELTERWEIGHTS.

                      Crawford beat two. Technically three (but NSB doesn’t count the third).

                      Spence beat THREE WELTERWEIGHT TITLEHOLDERS. Crawford beat one, technically two (but NSB doesn’t count the other one).

                      it’s like some of you failed math or something.
                      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 12-19-2023, 06:34 AM.

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