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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    Why can’t he take a voluntary title defense if nothing is guaranteed and has the WBC officially stated Whyte is the mandatory or at least yet ? Also under WBC rules it states the Interim champion cannot be considered a mandatory .
    The WBC ordered negotiations to begin, so it is a mandated fight and Whyte is the mandatory challenger, which means he is next in line for a shot at the WBC belt. Fury could only make a voluntary defence against someone else if Whyte agreed to step aside.

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      #32
      Originally posted by M312

      20% is ridiculous, Whyte would be a HUGE reason for the fight being huge. It's time to move on from that nonsense.

      The truth is everyone needs to just stop playing games. Just get on with it - and fans, stop justifying this nonsense.
      The 20% offer to Whyte is based on his last declared purse, which was £300k. Fury's last declared purse was more than 20x bigger.

      Fury is a mainstream celebrity sports star in the UK now, as big as AJ was 3 years ago. Fury against anybody with a pulse would be a huge fight in the UK, even without the WBC title on the line. It would be billed as a defence of the Ring and lineal world titles and the casuals would be all over it like flies at a picnic. Parker, Joyce, Dubois, Ruiz Jr, Ortiz, would all bring in as much money as Whyte and they would all be happy with a 20% cut.

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        #33
        Originally posted by kafkod

        The 20% offer to Whyte is based on his last declared purse, which was £300k. Fury's last declared purse was more than 20x bigger.

        Fury is a mainstream celebrity sports star in the UK now, as big as AJ was 3 years ago. Fury against anybody with a pulse would be a huge fight in the UK, even without the WBC title on the line. It would be billed as a defence of the Ring and lineal world titles and the casuals would be all over it like flies at a picnic. Parker, Joyce, Dubois, Ruiz Jr, Ortiz, would all bring in as much money as Whyte and they would all be happy with a 20% cut.
        What you just said is perfectly logical and reasonable.

        But some of the posters here are too caught up in their feelings towards Tyson Fury to be objective.

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          #34
          Fury's not blameless - this is Whyte vs Team Fury and the WBC.

          You think that the WBC decided on their own that they wouldn't apply the standard 45% split from their rules? Of course not, they were petitioned by Fury's team and threatened with their champion vacating. And they caved.

          Mandatories are the only way to keep some kind of sporting element in prizefighting. WBC have f.u.kd that up yet again.

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            #35
            Why does every opponent have to take Fury to court in order to face him?

            Wilder and now Whyte, seemingly have to climb a mountain just to face Tyson Fury.

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              #36
              Originally posted by kafkod

              The 20% offer to Whyte is based on his last declared purse, which was £300k. Fury's last declared purse was more than 20x bigger.

              Fury is a mainstream celebrity sports star in the UK now, as big as AJ was 3 years ago. Fury against anybody with a pulse would be a huge fight in the UK, even without the WBC title on the line. It would be billed as a defence of the Ring and lineal world titles and the casuals would be all over it like flies at a picnic. Parker, Joyce, Dubois, Ruiz Jr, Ortiz, would all bring in as much money as Whyte and they would all be happy with a 20% cut.
              I don't care what you think it's based on, it's nonsense.

              Its a huge fight and Tyson gets nothing else near it.

              Suggesting 20% is ok is just trolling.

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                #37
                Originally posted by deathofaclown

                how is 20% ducking?

                Fury’s purse in his last fight was about 30x more than than Whyte

                Whyte brings nothing to the table, no belt and Fury pretty much brings all the audience, especially international

                it’s more than a fair deal

                Whyte brings nothing to the table?

                ​​​​​​Besides the biggest fight outside AJ/Usyk.

                ​​​​​​20% is simple trolling.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Brumsongs1

                  You talk about Tyson more than Paris does.
                  When does she talk about Tyson ?Is she on the forum is that you Paris ?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown

                    How can they fight in March if they can’t even start negotiating until March?

                    and they have 30 days to negotiate which might not happen, so then you’re looking at purse bids, which isn’t immediately on 30 days, it’s a little bit after that, so that could run well into April before they might even have a deal and a promoter via purse bids, you then need a venue and time to promote the fight, so you’re probably looking at June before they could even fight.

                    So let me ask you how can they agree a fight now if it might actually go purse bids which gives a third-party promoter opportunity to promote it? Unless they negotiate a deal between them which is unlikely because Whyte somehow thinks he deserves 45%.
                    Negotiations are basically the split ,the venue could be decided because only a few will be available this is common sense . To suggest Fury will move on because he won’t wait is a duck ,you know I know it ,the forum knows it .


                    How did Fury initially agree to a fight with Wilder months before they agreed to terms ? Can you answer that ?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kafkod

                      The 20% offer to Whyte is based on his last declared purse, which was £300k. Fury's last declared purse was more than 20x bigger.

                      Fury is a mainstream celebrity sports star in the UK now, as big as AJ was 3 years ago. Fury against anybody with a pulse would be a huge fight in the UK, even without the WBC title on the line. It would be billed as a defence of the Ring and lineal world titles and the casuals would be all over it like flies at a picnic. Parker, Joyce, Dubois, Ruiz Jr, Ortiz, would all bring in as much money as Whyte and they would all be happy with a 20% cut.
                      You know that’s not going to uphold in those arbitration proceedings because Whyte fought Povetkin when no fans were allowed and the second time only 500 ppl were allowed in the venue so twice due to Covid where his normal generated earnings was effected . When they look at what’s actually real it’s not going to be 20% ,all that nonsense is just Fury trying to get out of the fight ,in a last ditch effort he will probably succeed in doing but he will also succeed in killing his own reputation,you know it’s a duck if he neglected the fight or title defense .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-23-2021, 07:48 PM.

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