Who had the better career Golovkin or Ward?

[billeau2]

Serious question - why did he have all his fights in his backyard in that tourney considering he was really unknown? That Kessler fight in the first round in Oakand is especially odd to me. Why wouldn't that be in the champ's backyard.

Again depends on how you view it. I'm biased but my view, having taught kids from Oakland and seeing how screwed up the area is, someone like Ward repping the area and standing up for it is Noble. Oakland is a short hop of a flight from Las Vegas. It has a major Airport there are hotels...it's a good as Vegas, the coliseum rocks... there isn't really a home team in boxing.

[DreamFighter]

GGG's peak achievement is stopping the worst middleweight champion in recent memory, Lemiux.
He only unified because 2 boxing bodies gave him a title without him throwing a punch. We dont even know if hes capable of unifying in the ring.

This is not even a question.

[Pac=Duran]

Ward
2 division champion
wins over

Kovalev-2 times
Froch
Kessler
Dawson
arthur abraham

Golovkin-unified 160 champ
wins over

Jacobs
Lemuex
geale
macklin
martirosyn
rolls
sacremento


who you got fellas?

On paper it’s Ward for sure but if you view things correctly and if things were judged correctly then GGG would have a win and a draw in his 2 match series vs Canelo and Ward would have a loss in the first Kova fight then GGG would have the better career over Ward

[LeOoze]

On paper it’s Ward for sure but if you view things correctly and if things were judged correctly then GGG would have a win and a draw in his 2 match series vs Canelo and Ward would have a loss in the first Kova fight then GGG would have the better career over Ward

Except the history books will remember that GGG went 0-1-1 with Canelo and Ward has 2 wins over Kovalev…even subtracting Kovalev…Ward’s run at 168 was better than ggg’s career

[GhostofDempsey]

GGG. He arguably beat Canelo 2X, tied the title defense record with Hopkins. He also earned way more money than Ward. Talk to us about Ward's best PPV numbers...160K buys, versus 1.3 million buys for GGG/Canelo I. Ward fought a weight drained Dawson, and got a gift in the first Kovalev fight. He was a boring, dirty fighter who couldn't sell.

[Pac=Duran]

Except the history books will remember that GGG went 0-1-1 with Canelo and Ward has 2 wins over Kovalev…even subtracting Kovalev…Ward’s run at 168 was better than ggg’s career

Yes the history books will say that but hey are wrong.

you, me and everyone else saw GGG and Kovalev get robbed blind in their first fights vs Canelo and Ward

[bballchump11]

GGG. He arguably beat Canelo 2X, tied the title defense record with Hopkins. He also earned way more money than Ward. Talk to us about Ward's best PPV numbers...160K buys, versus 1.3 million buys for GGG/Canelo I. Ward fought a weight drained Dawson, and got a gift in the first Kovalev fight. He was a boring, dirty fighter who couldn't sell.

Defenses of the WBA regular title doesn't count.

[F l i c k e r]

I'm gonna go with Ward. He fought more legit opponents, moved up in weight and continued winning against the best.

Nothing to take away from GGG. He is still an immense boxer and impressive boxer to me but his best opponent, he took a Drawn and Loss. (though I argued he won the first fight)

Ward career > GGG career

[F l i c k e r]

On paper it’s Ward for sure but if you view things correctly and if things were judged correctly then GGG would have a win and a draw in his 2 match series vs Canelo and Ward would have a loss in the first Kova fight then GGG would have the better career over Ward

I guess you can argue that.

But if Ward takes an L, does he continue fighting to this day? To take an L and win. While GGG takes a W over Canelo. Does GGG move up and Ward meet him in the middle?

A lot of things potentially change with that timeline so to speak.

[DreamFighter]

GGG did well to defend the only title he won from someone 5 times, but there is only 2 credible defences on it. That cannot be debated against someone like Ward.

You need to compare him with someone else who made a few defences and then lost his title eg Caleb Plant.