Who had the better career Golovkin or Ward?

[Boxing-1013]

Definitely I can stop talking. Because theres nothing wrong with what I wrote - Ward fought 4 opponents with 50/50 at home, same ratio as kessler.

... but you need to keep talking.

IN ORDER to tell us about this other mysterious 5th man that you claim Ward fought besides Kessler, Green, Abraham and Froch.


Was it Sven THE GHOST Otkke?

Lol. Only an idiot or someone with an agenda would argue that Kessler and Ward had the same type of locations for their super 6 fights. I think you're both. Cong**** lol.

He fought Bika, of course. It was in the middle of the Super 6 and Bika replaced Dirrell.

In his last 16 fights, Ward fought 3 of them outside of California. They were 2 fights vs a Russian in Las Vegas, where he got unbelievably favorable cards in fight 1, and favorable ref treatment in fight 2. And then a fight in New Jersey against an Englishman.

What a murderer's row of locations for Ward!!! Truly a great test for him lol

[DreamFighter]

Lol. Only an idiot or someone with an agenda would argue that Kessler and Ward had the same type of locations for their super 6 fights. I think you're both. Cong**** lol.

He fought Bika, of course. It was in the middle of the Super 6 and Bika replaced Dirrell.

In his last 16 fights, Ward fought 3 of them outside of California. They were 2 fights vs a Russian in Las Vegas, where he got unbelievably favorable cards in fight 1, and favorable ref treatment in fight 2. And then a fight in New Jersey against an Englishman.

What a murderer's row of locations for Ward!!! Truly a great test for him lol

bika, one of calzaghe's toughest fights, was a voluntary stay busy defence for ward. It was certainly not super six.

So the ratio remains 50% at Oakland, 50% away.

and kesslers remains 50% copenhagen, 50% away

your situation has not improved. You need to start talking.

[Boxing-1013]

bika, one of calzaghe's toughest fights, was a voluntary stay busy defence for ward. It was certainly not super six.

So the ratio remains 50% at Oakland, 50% away.

and kesslers remains 50% copenhagen, 50% away

your situation has not improved.

Bika gave Ward all he could handle as well. And Ward somehow got one 12-0 card and two 10-2 cards, lol.

You are one of the dumbest, most autistic posters on this site. And that is saying something.

I can only imagine how pathetic you look in real life, lol. Keep being autistic, bro. Enjoy it.

[DreamFighter]

Bika gave Ward all he could handle as well. And Ward somehow got one 12-0 card and two 10-2 cards, lol.

You are one of the dumbest, most autistic posters on this site. And that is saying something.

I can only imagine how pathetic you look in real life, lol. Keep being autistic, bro. Enjoy it.

so thats an admittance that claiming he fought five was wrong, as well as backtracking on dis*****g 50/50 in and out of oakland is correct.

you were right, i could have stopped talking.

[Boxing-1013]

so thats an admittance that claiming he fought five was wrong, as well as backtracking on dis*****g 50/50 in and out of oakland is correct.

you were right, i could have stopped talking.

Kessler is born in Copenhagen. He fought Froch in Herning.

By your own logic, Kessler would have 1 fight away, and 0 fights home. So you contradict yourself. Then again, you're an autistic, ugly, spaz, so no surprise there.

Your attempt to equate Ward's home ring advantage to Kessler's in that context is LAUGHABLE. Complete scrub.

He fought Bika as a replacement for Dirrell. Froch had 5 fights in the Super SIx. Depending on your view on semantics, you could argue Bika was or wasn't a part of the Super Six.

For you to act as though that fight, in the middle of the super 6, as a replacement fight for the Super six guy Ward was supposed to fight, wasn't a part of that tourney, I mean you're a complete dumbass dude. Like I said, you're an autistic spaz. Get some help.

[Boxing-1013]

bika, one of calzaghe's toughest fights, was a voluntary stay busy defence for ward. It was certainly not super six.

So the ratio remains 50% at Oakland, 50% away.

and kesslers remains 50% copenhagen, 50% away

your situation has not improved. You need to start talking.

Hey man where'd you go?

You said 50/50 but Froch-Kessler wasn't in Copenhagen, but Herning.

Where ya at man???

[billeau2]

serious answer:

fights in the states, especially back then, did much better at the gate and on tv.

additionally, the finale was in atlantic city iirc. i know you guys aren't experts on us geography and that's fine, but this country is giant and those two places are on opposite sides of it. it's around 3000 miles away from ward's "hometown." six hours on a plane, literally days by car. nottingham is actually only about 500 miles further away from AC than oakland is. if you traveled that far in the other direction you'd be in asia, for a little more perspective.

Great post... and you might also explain to him, as I have tried, that Oakland is a hop away from Las Vegas... any high roller interested in catching a Ward fight would be totally comfortable taking a redeye for less than 2 hours to do so in Oakland... Difference being Oakland, which has world class facilities rivaling Vegas, gets some much needed revenue.

[billeau2]

I live in the US. Are you really trying to act like NJ is a neutral site? Come on man. It's in the US. I think it wasn't as much of a home field advantage for Ward, and the scorecards bore that out. They were closer than they would have been in Oakland. The right man won that night. It was a 7-5 type of fight. But if Ward ever traveled in his career, he would have had to deal with a more neutral ref, more neutral judges, and a more hostile crowd than he was used to. In large degree in all 3 areas.

Kessler was the 1 seed. He shouldn't have had to fight the 8 seed in the 8 seed's hometown. If you're just a boxing fan, we should all agree on that one.

There is no homefield in boxing! there are no "refs" that work Oakland and not Vegas. Seriously... Im trying to be nice but your going full rtard here! YES, judges in GErmany are different (depending on production company) and Ottke therefore had an advantage... But Oakland california does not have its own damn boxing judges.

[tritium_arma]

bika, one of calzaghe's toughest fights, was a voluntary stay busy defence for ward. It was certainly not super six.

So the ratio remains 50% at Oakland, 50% away.

and kesslers remains 50% copenhagen, 50% away

your situation has not improved. You need to start talking.

You forgot the most important statistic.
Super six fights outside of home country: 0% for ward, at least 1 for all others.
Ward should've praised Goosen instead of suing him for getting such a favourable treatment when he was never a large draw.
Son of Goosen indeed.

[billeau2]

Yeah I just don't really think you're a very objective analyst. But thanks for your 2 cents.

And you are being objective? You have a right to state who you thought won a fight... But objectively the Canelo triple G fights were close... Thats an informed, objective opinion that perhaps casts aspersions on judges...

Ward may have gotten a gift in the first Kovalev fight, but he beat Kovalev decidedly in the second fight, thats a fact. And Ward seldom had close fights, dominating fights, like during the tournament, that is a fact as well... No close decisions to mull over.