Floyd laid the blueprint for how to beat Canelo

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #81
    The OP is right and wrong. Its not as easy to say Michael Jordan showed the way to win the finals each time. Executing in competitive sport varies. For example, MJ didn’t have to, but he did, post up and do the fade away jumper. MJ could’ve easily just shot around the perimeter not executing the fadeaway which was MJ Protocol. Most fans have no idea how MJ changed the game in the Championships. If Lebron James didn’t have his size then I don’t think he’d be as popular nor be what he is.

    Floyd TOO was a complete fighter, but because he was was a lighter class, his speed would always be faster than Canelo. That’s a fact. Also Floyd’s ring IQ and intestinal fortitude can’t be applied but only mimicked. For instance if you payed Neymar to emulate Ronaldo, literally, it doesn’t mean you’re going to get the same RESULT. Sure a Harlem Globetrotter looks stupendous and could probably mimic MJ moves, but doesn’t mean one could execute like MJ.

    this was Caleb Plant. He was good kickboxer who transitioned into boxing exclusively at the teen age. He felt that he could emulate defense like Floyd, but trust me, there are many unknown talents in gyms that can do the same. Copying a style doesn’t mean it’s genuinely in you. Floyd was Floyd. So when Breadman would say Plant does things like Floyd one would assess that he’s a just a boxing brain that knows the history, but doesn’t know how to compete in the ring. Most fighters have their own unique style. If you see Plant in his earlier career I would simply just say he’s trying to be like a Nas or Maravilla, and again, that’s just emulating. He chose to evolve Floyd’s techniques by copying something that isn’t genuinely his, and that probably grew into him being at the TMT gym for so many years.

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    • TBETroll
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      #82
      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE

      Inexperienced with 45 fights. The fact that Canelo couldn't make the leap at 22 just proves he's not in the same tier as Tyson, Floyd, Ali, etc... Those guys were monsters committing regicide at 22 while Canelo fans make excuses for him.
      Canelo never fought in the amateurs....Floyd had 80 amateur fights. Canelo had half of Floyd's experience when they fought.

      By the time they fought Floyd had matched Genaro Hernandez, Judah, DLH, Hatton, Mosley, etc. while Canelo's meaningful experience was...Trout.

      That doesn't mean Canelo beats Floyd today - styles make fights - but there's no reason to diminish Canelo. Floyd beat a novice version of Canelo. No reason to get defensive about it

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      • djtmal
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        #83
        Originally posted by BodyBagz
        May is too smart and talented to get KTFO. Power will not beat May. When will people learn ?
        Floyd cherrypicked easy fights of course he wasn't going to get ko'd

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        • deathofaclown
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          #84
          Canelo didn’t have the experience he has now

          Floyd’s physical prime ended around 2009. After around the JMM fight, his legs were never quite the same. He was still excellent but he definitely slowed down around 2010 onwards

          So it kind of evens itself out.

          As for the weight, Canelo’s team were actually the ones that suggested 152 at first, go and look it up if you can.
          Last edited by deathofaclown; 11-07-2021, 07:37 AM.

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          • Hype job
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            #85
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            So you don't think that Caleb Plant's shoulder roll defense made things difficult for Canelo tonight?
            Nope. Canelo was in cruise control from the opening bell to the knockout.

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              #86
              I thought Floyd mixed up his attack very well against Canelo. In the first round, he came out very aggressively in the center of the ring, out jabbing and pot-shotting Canelo while even backing him up as he landed a huge uppercut on him as well.

              What I saying is that Floyd more than implemented his share of offense too by landing the cleaner punches on Canelo Alvarez. .He wasn't afraid of letting his hands go. In addition, to using the shoulder roll.

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                #87
                Originally posted by -Kev-

                Prolonging the inevitable isn’t making things difficult.

                All Plant did was literally prolong a stoppage.

                Making things difficult is winning rounds, making it close, then getting stopped in a valiant effort.

                Plant literally just avoided punching, avoided getting hit with too many power punches, and was with his back on the ropes for 95% of the fight.

                That isn’t making things difficult. It’s like a kid doing something ******, get his mom mad, so she goes after him with a belt, and the kid starts running away from the mom within the house. Prolonging the whooping he’s about to get. That’s what Plant looked like in the whole fight.
                It came out of Canelo's own mouth that things got difficult in this fight.

                As good of a fighter as he has become, as much experience as he has, he STILL had problems dealing with the shoulder roll defense.

                That was very interesting to witness in my opinion.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Hype job

                  Nope. Canelo was in cruise control from the opening bell to the knockout.
                  You don't think Plant's shoulder roll defense gave him some problems?

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    Floyd cherrypicked easy fights of course he wasn't going to get ko'd
                    I love these kinds of hypocritical nonsense

                    Shot Clottey, Shot DLH*, Cotto*, Shot Algieri*, Shot Margarito*, Shot Broner, Shot Mosley, Shot Lucas, Vargas, Bradley 3x and the mother of all cherry picks HORN
                    13 OFF THE BAT. I can name another 20 prior to his move to WW.

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by djtmal

                      Floyd cherrypicked easy fights of course he wasn't going to get ko'd
                      Yet " most " not all , of his opponents were KO punchers with impressive KO resumes in top competition, you really say some dumb ass stuff don't you, your hate leads you by the nose you need to slow down the red flags you see and think a little bit before you type total rubbish.

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