Floyd laid the blueprint for how to beat Canelo

[elfag]

um its hit and not get hit, that wins rounds. floyd easily outlanded canelo and he counters from his shoulder roll.


what the shoulder roll did for plant was let him last into the 11th vs getting stopped much earlier. he was harder to get his clean, he focused on surviving and on defense. he rolled or blocked a lot of shots, but canelo was also happy to land on his arms to wear him down. then as the commentators pointed out, that made plant want to keep his arms in close at his side to take the shots instead of throwing. plant doesnt counter out of his shoulder roll anywhere near like floyd, but of course we knew that plant is a tomato can beater and floyd is an ATG, they arent close to the same level

[-Kev-]

“It works somewhat”

If getting stalked and knocked out while using it, means it works, yeah it works

If losing damn near every round of a fight, means it somewhat works, yeah, sure, it works

[_original_]

People always make excuses but that was an excellent win for Floyd, turning into his best.

I always see people bringing up Alvarez being young and inexperienced but don’t bring up Floyd being smaller and old.

[kushking]

Not just that. There’s more to Floyd’s defense that confused Canelo that night. Floyd’s ability to catch and shoot between Canelo’s counters and his discipline to not get caught with the same punch pattern in a 12 rounds fight. His punching accuracy, precision, and change of attacks made him a matchup nightmare for Canelo stylistically. If they were to fight 10 times at 147/154, Floyd would still beat him 10 times out of 10.

Delusional (what you shoulda said is if Floyd is allowed to weightdrain him,pick his gloves,24 ft ring,& not face a prime Canelo)

[kushking]

I think Floyd would get kod easily by current Canelo(unless hes hes drained),Plant lasted til rd 11 because hes a career lhw & much bigger than Floyd & Canelo.

[Boxing-1013]

Golovkin whipped Canelo's ass going down the stretch in that fight. Canelo corner told him he didn't have it in him to stop Golovkin and to just box enough to get to the end.

I love when all these real independent analysts (sarcasm) on here just make up narratives to suit their preferred worldview.

As you said, GGG closed the show in fight 2 extremely well.

In truth both fights played out virtually the same way. The first 4-6 rounds, it was even enough between the 2 guys, with Canelo's speed/youth/quickness advantage helping to negate GGG's jab and workrate.

Then, in the middle/late rounds, GGG settles in, even picks up his pace some, and Canelo slows down. GGG begins to string rounds together and takes a solid lead.

In the final rounds, Canelo gets a 2nd wind, and the late rounds are fairly even as his 2nd wind helps to keep up with GGG's workrate.

I think this dude said Plant was schooling Canelo tonight, but apparently Canelo was destroying GGG in their fights. Man, what the hell is wrong with some people.

[Boxing-1013]

GGG got beat up bad the 2nd fight. His corner knew he was losing the fight and TOLD HIM IN THE CORNER!!!! He was backed up and beat up most of the fight. I never understood any cries of robbery of their 2nd fight. GGG got what he asked for. he wanted "mexican style".

Absolutely hilarious btw that you say this - "to beat him requires stamina and defense. You're not gonna knock him out, but outpoint him using angles and legs. He's flat footed and really loads up on his shots. I personally don't see anyone fighting today with the stamina and skills to do that. Doo Doo Andrade would have the same success for 8 or 9 rounds until he's broken down eventually."

You literally saw a guy do that, twice, using his jab and workrate/stamina to outpoint Canelo. Lol. Yet you can't even admit that to yourself, for some strange reasons. Get some help.

[ShoulderRoll]

“It works somewhat”

If getting stalked and knocked out while using it, means it works, yeah it works

If losing damn near every round of a fight, means it somewhat works, yeah, sure, it works

Canelo struggled to land against Plant's shoulder roll.

He acknowledged in the postfight interview that things got more difficult than he had expected.

It is what it is.

[elfag]

What did Canelo do to deserve a fight against Floyd? He only got the fight because of Oscar. The number of fights doesn't mean ****. What matters is the caliber of fighters you're fighting. His best opponent before fighting Floyd was Trout. Canelo didn't have championship caliber experience and solid defense before he fought Floyd. Floyd took him to school because he lacked experience in championship fights, his body wasn't developed, and he wasn't ready to fight someone like fight.

he was a 23 year old man, get out of here with that his body wasnt developed. ali, tyson, floyd were all champs at that age and canelo had a belt at that age himself.

yeah they were building up a match with him and floyd, that is why he faced mosley on the floyd-cotto undercard. it came a year or so sooner than expected but floyd was 36 years old already, time was running out, so they took their chances and made the fight. you wait much longer and floyd is either too old or canelo is up too high a weight class.

[elfag]

I think this dude said Plant was schooling Canelo tonight, but apparently Canelo was destroying GGG in their fights. Man, what the hell is wrong with some people.

I thought BJS won more rounds than plant did, he had some success when he was moving in the mid rounds. plant took less damage and was harder to hit clean. but offensively he did very little to win rounds.