Is anyone actually surprised Fury-AJ has fallen apart?

[Toffee]

Don’t see how you can’t grasp that he didn’t pull out from the rematch when the rematch clause expired?

He was openly posting social media videos asking where Wilder is and if the rematch is happening.

Considering the rematch clause expired last year and the judge has just ordered the rematch to happen five months into this year, Then it’s difficult to say fury backed out of the rematch when he wasn’t legally obligated any more until yesterday. That was the whole point of the case.

Wilder exercise the rematch clause in March 2020 and the rematch clause expired in July 2020. Under normal circumstances he probably should have no claim to a rematch after it expired but they are using Covid as an excuse to why it was delayed.

I’m pretty sure it won’t happen anyway. Fury will just vacate the WBC or Wilder will take a step aside, which is what he wants anyway.

Everybody has a price to step aside and the Saudis will probably pay it via Fury.

the other option is just vacate, How much do they really care about undisputed when there’s $150 million site fees on the table?

You're talking about a completely different fight.

After the first fight a rematch was ordered. Fury signed with Top Rank and moved on from it. Fought Wallin and Schwarz instead.

[deathofaclown]

You're talking about a completely different fight.

After the first fight a rematch was ordered. Fury signed with Top Rank and moved on from it. Fought Wallin and Schwarz instead.

But he still did rematch him didn’t he? And beat him.

so what point are you trying to make?

Fury did the right thing, First time he got shafted on the scorecard because he was on Wilder’s promoters card. So he signed a deal in USA for great money, then he didn’t have to sing to the PBC tune if he wanted a fight. It ended up a co promotion and broadcast. Then the fight happened about 7 months later than it probably would’ve originally, big deal. It happened, he won and took the belt.

About 13 months passed between the two fights, As opposed to about 6 if they did it in the next fight.

hardly running from a rematch, Especially when it actually happened anyway .

You’re very unintelligent, I think.

[ChiBullz023]

Boxing never seems to strike when the iron is hot, AJ/Wilder was gonna be the BIG fight, but one reason or another they delayed and delayed and then AJ lost to Ruiz & Fury beat Wilder


Now we want to see an Undisputed championship in HW but looks like the same BS is happening yet again

[IronDanHamza]

Not surprised at all.

We both called it a while back.

[Toffee]

But he still did rematch him didn’t he? And beat him.

so what point are you trying to make?

Fury did the right thing, First time he got shafted on the scorecard because he was on Wilder’s promoters card. So he signed a deal in USA for great money, then he didn’t have to sing to the PBC tune if he wanted a fight. It ended up a co promotion and broadcast. Then the fight happened about 7 months later than it probably would’ve originally, big deal. It happened, he won and took the belt.

About 13 months passed between the two fights, As opposed to about 6 if they did it in the next fight.

hardly running from a rematch, Especially when it actually happened anyway .

You’re very unintelligent, I think.

You can defend every one of the points I raised.

But he was unfairly treated, but dodgy meat, but the British Boxing Board hated him, but mental health, but a leftist judge, but this, but that...

It's like you're in an abusive relationship with this guy. You want to believe in him, so you keep on excusing him and believing that he didn't cause these things, he was instead the victim.

Fury himself plays the martyr and you all fall at his feet.

When you look back at his history, there's a pattern. FFS, he's just been ruled against by a judge.

[Toffee]

Boxing never seems to strike when the iron is hot, AJ/Wilder was gonna be the BIG fight, but one reason or another they delayed and delayed and then AJ lost to Ruiz & Fury beat Wilder


Now we want to see an Undisputed championship in HW but looks like the same BS is happening yet again

Yep, we got close but it looks dead again. A shame for boxing.

With mandatories looming you'd imagine the belts will now start to split up.

Joshua has made a real attempt to get the belts together. I can't see others having the same kind of motivation.

[andocom]

Arum just played Eddie Hearn so bad. Eddie even introduced him to the Saudis lmaoo. Arum was a great lawyer. He knew he was gonna lose and played Eddie like a fiddle leaving Eddie looking like a blow hard.

You must be kidding, Eddie has shown he can put together the biggest deal in boxing, one that Arum couldn't match, while Arum has shown he can't even handle sorting out a rematch clause successfully.

Arum is such a great lawyer that he knew he would lose? Like are you serious, a half way decent lawyer avoids putting his client in a situation where he can lose, let alone does.

Arum has completely screwed it, the Saudi's are pissed and this is evidence of Arum's greatness?

The take away is Eddie delivers, the Saudi's deliver, Arum can't even handle a rematch clause.

[ClubberLang82]

Boxing never seems to strike when the iron is hot, AJ/Wilder was gonna be the BIG fight, but one reason or another they delayed and delayed and then AJ lost to Ruiz & Fury beat Wilder


Now we want to see an Undisputed championship in HW but looks like the same BS is happening yet again

The one common denominator in all of this? Hearn.

AJ's the cash cow at heavyweight everyone wants to fight. In other words, no one's ducking him. He is the ultimate prize fight... Yet for whatever reason, neither Wilder or Fury could ever get the guy in the ring. Instead they'll likely end up fighting each other three times before AJ fights either of them.

So no, i'm not surprised it fell through. I'd be far more surprised if the fight actually happened. I'll even go as far as to say that AJ will not have fought or have a date confirmed with either of them by this time next year.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The take away is Eddie delivers, the Saudi's deliver, Arum can't even handle a rematch clause.

How is Eddie delivering? The fights isn’t happening.

Nobody has delivered in this scenario.

[andocom]

How is Eddie delivering? The fights isn’t happening.

Nobody has delivered in this scenario.

I thought it was pretty obvious for anyone with a close to average intelligence, Hearn delivered the deal for undisputed that all sides were happy with, the Saudis delivered by putting up the money (in escrow), Arum couldn't even deliver his fighter solid legal guidance on a rematch clause.

Keep in mind that quote was in response to an absolutely insane claim that Arum's a great lawyer and this all played out as per his masterplan, when the reality is he looks completely incompetent as a promoter, lost in arbitration and killed the biggest payday in boxing.

Anyone that thinks Arum has come out of this looking good needs an evaluation.