UFC n mma offically overtakes boxing

[Lomadeaux]

Completely subjective.

The word "science" is literally in the sports nickname. You don't have the big events in MMA like you do in boxing. You can be a fan of it, sure.. But there's just too much money in the sport. MMA guys don't make much money at all.

[Idunnoshet]

I gotta admit. I have been watching more MMA these days than I would before.

The main reason is the way Dana White dealt with the virus situation.
Tons of Respect to Dana White for that.

UFC's ready to do a full capacity crowd show while promoters in Boxing are still trying to convince fighters to take less money because of the virus situation. I've heard many fighters complain about the Bubble and fighting with No crowds.

It's bad for fighters. Specially the young up and coming ones who have no Manager / Promoter and have a hard time getting fights.

[nubianpiye]

I gotta admit. I have been watching more MMA these days than I would before.

The main reason is the way Dana White dealt with the virus situation.
Tons of Respect to Dana White for that.

UFC's ready to do a full capacity crowd show while promoters in Boxing are still trying to convince fighters to take less money because of the virus situation. I've heard many fighters complain about the Bubble and fighting with No crowds.

It's bad for fighters. Specially the young up and coming ones who have no Manager / Promoter and have a hard time getting fights.

I have no problem with people saying they enjoy MMA more, I don't but pretending it's a bigger sport when it's not even comparative is delusional though.

[TMLT87]

Just to emphasize what a dunce this poster is 15 of the top 20 PPV fights with the largest sales numbers of all time are boxing matches compared to 5 MMA

Now narrow it down to the last 15 years ie the point where the UFC started properly blowing up to the level that boxing wasnt essentially the only game in town anymore. Or more specifically the last almost 6 since Floyd/Pac happened because they basically carried boxing on PPV for almost a decade. Then keep in mind that almost half of all boxings PPV buys since then can be attributed to Floyd fighting an MMA fighter and an exhibition match with a 54 year old Mike Tyson. Theres been like one year in the last 15 where boxing has generated more total buys in a year than the UFC btw. You know what that means? it means the UFC is making big high profile fights more consistently.

Boxing has Canelo who is bigger than anyone in MMa, Joshua who is bigger than anyone in MMA and Fury who again is bigger than anyone in MMA

Canelo - 8.4m IG followers, 8.1m PPV buys from 9 fights, currently fights on some obscure app that costs pocket change and sits in his locker room while his own audience watches a UFC fight on the arenas big screens.

Anthony Joshua - 12.1m IG followers, 12.1m total PPV buys from 11 fights on UK PPV at less than half the price point that a UFC PPV costs in the US.

Fury - 4m IG followers, 1.5m US sales for 2 fights.

Conor - 39.5m IG followers, 11.3m PPV buys from 8 MMA fights + 4.3m for boxing match with Floyd.


This is exactly what I mean about the arrogant delusion and overestimation. Conor is a far bigger star and draw than any of them. And Pacs PPV numbers after Floyd beat him are lower than ****ing Israel Adesanyas.

Canelo set a viewership record in Mexico recently has a MMA star ever set a record?

Conor/Khabib did as many PPV buys as both Canelo/GGG fights combined and Conor/Floyd did more than double the buys of Canelo/Floyd. Is that good enough?

Jeff Horn V pac holds the PPV record in Australia

Talk about damning with faint praise. What was the number and what was the price?

The UFC set an attendance record over there as far as i'm aware. Btw why does Aussie MMA fighter Robert Whittaker have more IG followers than basically every current Aussie boxer combined? literally the top 3 most followed Aussie fighters on there are all from MMA. Switch over to New Zealanders and Joseph Parker isnt even a bigger name than Mark Hunt never mind Adesanya.

Joshua has repeatedly sold over a million PPV's in Britain UFC isn't even on PPV in Britain that's because it isn't a big sport there.

Conveniently ignoring that most UFC PPVs are on at 3am there, and that the UK price point means 1 million buys there is the equivalent of a UFC PPV doing less than 400k American buys.

Please **** off to Sherdog

You're making my argument for me now. Quick check - 2732 members currently online sherdog vs 2780 between here and boxing forum 24 combined. Why does an MMA forum have much more traffic than the two major boxing forums? why does MMA Reddit have 1.5m members and boxing Reddit 1m? are all those people outside of America that make boxing 20-100 times bigger banned from accessing internet forums?

[TMLT87]

The word "science" is literally in the sports nickname. You don't have the big events in MMA like you do in boxing.

The word "art" is literally in MMAs official name.

And there are more big events in MMA than boxing nowadays, just this year theres been Conor/Poirier 2, UFC 259 which was basically a supercard, Stipe/Ngannou 2 and Usman/Burns.

[Lomadeaux]

The word "art" is literally in MMAs official name.

And there are more big events in MMA than boxing nowadays, just this year theres been Conor/Poirier 2, UFC 259 which was basically a supercard, Stipe/Ngannou 2 and Usman/Burns.

Dude... it's fun, I get it... It'll never be boxing. You'll never have WWF wrestlers as boxing champions. Understand?

[nubianpiye]

Now narrow it down to the last 15 years ie the point where the UFC started properly blowing up to the level that boxing wasnt essentially the only game in town anymore. Or more specifically the last almost 6 since Floyd/Pac happened because they basically carried boxing on PPV for almost a decade. Then keep in mind that almost half of all boxings PPV buys since then can be attributed to Floyd fighting an MMA fighter and an exhibition match with a 54 year old Mike Tyson. Theres been like one year in the last 15 where boxing has generated more total buys in a year than the UFC btw. You know what that means? it means the UFC is making big high profile fights more consistently.

In the last 15 years, Joshua has repeatedly sold over a million, Canelo has repeatedly sold over a Million Pac has repeatedly sold over a million the biggest ever recorded PPV in Floyd Pac occured the second biggest ever ppv occured in Floyd v connor lol.

Canelo - 8.4m IG followers, 8.1m PPV buys from 9 fights, currently fights on some obscure app that costs pocket change and sits in his locker room while his own audience watches a UFC fight on the arenas big screens.

Anthony Joshua - 12.1m IG followers, 12.1m total PPV buys from 11 fights on UK PPV at less than half the price point that a UFC PPV costs in the US.

Fury - 4m IG followers, 1.5m US sales for 2 fights.

Conor - 39.5m IG followers, 11.3m PPV buys from 8 MMA fights + 4.3m for boxing match with Floyd.


This is exactly what I mean about the arrogant delusion and overestimation. Conor is a far bigger star and draw than any of them. And Pacs PPV numbers after Floyd beat him are lower than ****ing Israel Adesanyas.

You funnily enough left off Floyd and Ryan Garcia? This type of cherry piucking just highlights what a deluded dunce you truly are lol

Conor/Khabib did as many PPV buys as both Canelo/GGG fights combined and Conor/Floyd did more than double the buys of Canelo/Floyd. Is that good enough?

Lol Conor Floyd was a boxing match so stop trying to use that to prop up your weak argument once again it just highlights how pathetic and ****** you are the fact that you come to a boxing forum to brag about something that isn't true for what purpose? that was the first instance of you demonstrating ******ity, trying to use a boxing match because it included a UFC fighter who trained boxing to prop up your numbers is your second instance of ******ity you are on way to demonstrating what a complete and utter idiot you are.

Talk about damning with faint praise. What was the number and what was the price?

The UFC set an attendance record over there as far as i'm aware. Btw why does Aussie MMA fighter Robert Whittaker have more IG followers than basically every current Aussie boxer combined? literally the top 3 most followed Aussie fighters on there are all from MMA. Switch over to New Zealanders and Joseph Parker isnt even a bigger name than Mark Hunt never mind Adesanya.

Jeff Horn isn't even a star in boxing that's the point but regionally he's sold more than UFC's next star? who just lost by the way.

Conveniently ignoring that most UFC PPVs are on at 3am there, and that the UK price point means 1 million buys there is the equivalent of a UFC PPV doing less than 400k American buys.

Floyd V hatton was on at 4 am in the uk and sold 1.2 million in the UK alone UFC isn't a big sport in the UK

You're making my argument for me now. Quick check - 2732 members currently online sherdog vs 2780 between here and boxing forum 24 combined. Why does an MMA forum have much more traffic than the two major boxing forums? why does MMA Reddit have 1.5m members and boxing Reddit 1m? are all those people outside of America that make boxing 20-100 times bigger banned from accessing internet forums?

What a dunce one American forum doesn't mean much you thick ****. Boxing has a broader age demographic amongst it's audience they aren't all logging on to forums to post my 64-year-old dad and all of his friends watch boxing they don't watch that ****sexual gay stuff you seem obsessed with promoting and they aren't going online to discuss the fight either.

My freind group ranging in age from 20 - 35 all watch boxing and have families they arent going online regularly to post either

Like I've said you are a dunce who came to a boxing forum to troll whilst not even knowing the background of the two sports. Comparing boxing to MMA globally is like comnparing an eagle to a gnat. now **** off.

[TMLT87]

Dude... it's fun, I get it... It'll never be boxing. You'll never have WWF wrestlers as boxing champions. Understand?

WWE wrestler yes, but you left out him also being a division 1 level national HW wrestling champion with a record of 106-5.

[nubianpiye]

Completely subjective.

The worst thing with this deluded dunce is why is he even here fabricating success for a sport on a boxing forum? What is the purpose of him being here? If UFC is so great and he loves watching men gesticulate their groins in other people's faces then let him go watch it show me the last time you had a boxing fan on one of their ********** forums reminding them that they are a little brother sport, with little brother syndrome? We don't what's the point?

Never hear Rugby players talking about American football players either? not sure what the strange obsession these MMA **** have with boxing is? it's like unrequited love. You should kill yourself the more I think about it. Drink some bleach and kill yourself I insist.

[Lomadeaux]

WWE wrestler yes, but you left out him also being a division 1 level national HW wrestling champion with a record of 106-5.

You're a young kid, I get it. There's dozens of WWF guys that fight in MMA. There's a reason they go there and not boxing. Ringside seats to main event boxing matches are 10x any MMA. You just have to understand, just because you like a sport a certain amount and not so much of the other, doesn't mean it's better.

There's no way shape or form MMA will ever surpass boxing. It's honestly, all about money. Top boxers make millions of dollars per fight, top MMA guys make 100's of thousands. That's the difference.