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  • TMLT87
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    #61
    Originally posted by nubianpiye
    What a ****** post Globally MMA pales in comparison to boxing, the only place it's comparable is America, the world is not America in fact 7+ billion people exist outside America. Anthony Joshua who isn't big in America is bigger than the whole UFC in britian. Canelo is bigger than the whole UFc in Mexico, Pac is bigger than the whole UFC in philipines no competition here. UFc is an American sport only.
    Boxing fans cling to this idea but in reality the gap globally is nowhere near as big as some would like to think. The UFC ran 20 different shows outside of America in 2019 alone. 10 of their 12 belts are currently held by champions who arent American, would be 11 if not for a last minute DQ recently. On most weekends of the year you can practically guarantee that theres more eyes spread out across a larger range of countries for the UFC than some PBC, Top Rank, Matchroom etc card too, this is backed up by the UFC generally pulling larger numbers on Youtube and social media than boxing does. Then you factor in ONE FC, Rizin, KSW, ACA, M-1, FNG, RCC etc that are all based outside of the US. People try to downplay MMA outside of the UFC but look at the subscriber/view count on some of those foreign MMA promotions too, One FC has more subscribers than PBC, Top Rank and Matchroom combined. Reality is in 90% of countries they're both niche sports, but the UFC at least has a cult following practically everywhere similar to the WWE. Places like the UK and Mexico are outliers where boxing is mainstream.
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      #62
      The one thing boxing has over MMA and it always will have, is that when the best fights actually happen, boxing is just leagues above. And always will be.

      Theres just something about a good old fashioned fist fight that you just can't go past.

      Compare Mike Tyson to Khabib, Khabib is probably the most destructive ufc fighter ever, and his fights consist of him taking a guy down, laying on them for 6,7,8,9 minutes and wearing them out, then a choke.

      You just can't compare that to a Mike Tyson in his prime just piecing some guy up with savage combinations and leaving them laying.

      Wrestling and grappling is always going to be a huge part of MMA and I don't care what the purists say, it's boring, it's ****, it's a clinch fest on the floor and it is not entertaining.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

        You just can't compare that to a Mike Tyson in his prime just piecing some guy up with savage combinations and leaving them laying.
        Ngannou tho. Rumble too.
        Last edited by TMLT87; 03-30-2021, 01:41 AM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by TMLT87

          Boxing fans cling to this idea but in reality the gap globally is nowhere near as big as some would like to think. The UFC ran 20 different shows outside of America in 2019 alone. 10 of their 12 belts are currently held by champions who arent American, would be 11 if not for a last minute DQ recently. On most weekends of the year you can practically guarantee that theres more eyes spread out across a larger range of countries for the UFC than some PBC, Top Rank, Matchroom etc card too, this is backed up by the UFC generally pulling larger numbers on Youtube and social media than boxing does. Then you factor in ONE FC, Rizin, KSW, ACA, M-1, FNG, RCC etc that are all based outside of the US. People try to downplay MMA outside of the UFC but look at the subscriber/view count on some of those foreign MMA promotions too, One FC has more subscribers than PBC, Top Rank and Matchroom combined. Reality is in 90% of countries they're both niche sports, but the UFC at least has a cult following practically everywhere similar to the WWE. Places like the UK and Mexico are outliers where boxing is mainstream.
          Wrong the difference between boxing and MMA is leagues different I don't know why you are even comparing it but generally Americans are deluded and a bit ******. It's like Americans that think their football compares to soccer in popularity, it doesn't at all in anyway the World Cup and premier league ****s all over American Football.

          I'd argue that boxing globally is about 20 times bigger than MMA outside of America and Brazil their isn't a single other country where MMA is the bigger sport lol and the worst thing is that MMA has plateud and isn't growing. not only is boxing miles bigger a single organisation like the WWE is bigger globally than MMA as well.

          MMA is third in terms of combat sport popularity behind boxing and pretend play fighting in WWE. Just enjoy your sport that seems to be in decline now you have no stars and we'll enjoy ours.
          Last edited by nubianpiye; 03-30-2021, 04:38 AM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by TMLT87

            Ngannou tho. Rumble too.
            People won't still be talking about ngannou in 30 years, trust me.

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              #66
              Originally posted by nubianpiye

              Wrong the difference between boxing and MMA is leagues different I don't know why you are even comparing it but generally Americans are deluded and a bit ******. It's like Americans that think their football compares to soccer in popularity, it doesn't all in anyway the World Cup and premier league ****s all over American Football.

              I'd argue that boxing globally is about 20 times bigger than MMA outside of America and Brazil their isn't a single other country where MMA is the bigger sport lol and the worst thing is that MMA has plateud and isn't growing. not only is boxing miles bigger a ingle organisation like the WWE is bigger globally than MMA as well.

              MMA is third in terms of combat sport popularity behind boxing and pretend play fighting in WWE. Just enjoy your sport that seems to be in decline now you have no stars and we'll enjoy ours.

              I'm not even American btw.

              Lmao @ 20 times bigger. A lot of boxing fans are so ****ing delusional about how big boxing actually is. Its this willing self delusion thats been present ever since the UFC started blowing up and rapidly gaining ground on boxing. If boxing is 20 times bigger globally why is it the UFC gets more Youtube views and social media numbers than boxing for the most part? wouldnt that actually be a relatively solid gauge of overall interest given that those platforms are widely used around the world and freely accessible to anyone? Which boxing promotion in Japan is bigger than Rizin (or K1 kickboxing for that matter) or Pride back in the day? which boxing promotion anywhere in Asia is running higher profile events than One FC? outside of the UK what boxing promotions are there in Europe that are bigger than KSW?

              Originally posted by nubianpiye
              enjoy your sport that seems to be in decline now you have no stars and we'll enjoy ours.

              Lol, its had massive decade on decade growth since its inception and has generated over 3 million total buys from 4 PPVs in the opening quarter of the year. Meanwhile boxings first PPV of the year is going to be a youtuber vs an MMA fighter. Dont forget other high profile boxing bouts this year including an ODH comeback possibly vs an MMA fighter, another Tyson exhibition, maybe Floyd/Logan Paul, JCC jr vs Anderson Silva and Eddie Hall vs The Mountain. But yes its the UFC thats declining and has no stars lol.


              Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

              People won't still be talking about ngannou in 30 years, trust me.

              Maybe not. But people probably aint gonna be talking about Fury, Joshua or Wilder either, or anyone in modern boxing to the same degree that they'll talk about Conor and Khabib.


              Kinda besides the point though, you said theres nobody in MMA that destroys people like Tyson did. But you've got a UFC HW champ right now thats brutally knocked out his last 5 opponents in less than 10 minutes combined. And they were all top 10-15 level opponents.

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                #67
                Originally posted by TMLT87


                I'm not even American btw.

                Lmao @ 20 times bigger. A lot of boxing fans are so ****ing delusional about how big boxing actually is. Its this willing self delusion thats been present ever since the UFC started blowing up and rapidly gaining ground on boxing. If boxing is 20 times bigger globally why is it the UFC gets more Youtube views and social media numbers than boxing for the most part? wouldnt that actually be a relatively solid gauge of overall interest given that those platforms are widely used around the world and freely accessible to anyone? Which boxing promotion in Japan is bigger than Rizin (or K1 kickboxing for that matter) or Pride back in the day? which boxing promotion anywhere in Asia is running higher profile events than One FC? outside of the UK what boxing promotions are there in Europe that are bigger than KSW?




                Lol, its had massive decade on decade growth since its inception and has generated over 3 million total buys from 4 PPVs in the opening quarter of the year. Meanwhile boxings first PPV of the year is going to be a youtuber vs an MMA fighter. Dont forget other high profile boxing bouts this year including an ODH comeback possibly vs an MMA fighter, another Tyson exhibition, maybe Floyd/Logan Paul, JCC jr vs Anderson Silva and Eddie Hall vs The Mountain. But yes its the UFC thats declining and has no stars lol.





                Maybe not. But people probably aint gonna be talking about Fury, Joshua or Wilder either, or anyone in modern boxing to the same degree that they'll talk about Conor and Khabib.


                Kinda besides the point though, you said theres nobody in MMA that destroys people like Tyson did. But you've got a UFC HW champ right now thats brutally knocked out his last 5 opponents in less than 10 minutes combined. And they were all top 10-15 level opponents.
                You MMA guys are deluded ****sexuals who are obsessed with boxing since it's inception MMA Dunce's have piggy backed of boxing constantly talking about how they are going to be the bigger sport, you use youtube as your barometer? lol the top five ppv in history are all boxing matches MMA has yet to break into that area and that with grossly inflated numbers due to it being a private company and not having an external agency list their numbers. Boxing has Canelo who is bigger than anyone in MMa, Joshua who is bigger than anyone in MMA and Fury who again is bigger than anyone in MMA, an aging Pac who you guessed it is bigger than anyone in MMA lol Canelo set a viewership record in Mexico recently has a MMA star ever set a record?

                Jeff Horn V pac holds the PPV record in Australia

                Joshua has repeatedly sold over a million PPV's in Britain UFC isn't even on PPV in Britain that's because it isn't a big sport there. You UFC nuts are deluded and obsessed with boxing I'd never go to an MMA forum to make a post about UFC or MMA being smaller than boxing because MMA doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things it's just some over the top American sport that no one cares about globally.

                Please **** off to Sherdog with the rest of the UFC bro's who love ********** ground humping you dunce.

                and when I think about it you are right boxing isn't 20 times bigger than UFc globally it's at least 100 times bigger. Now stop wasting my time with delusions of granduer.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by TMLT87


                  I'm not even American btw.

                  Lmao @ 20 times bigger. A lot of boxing fans are so ****ing delusional about how big boxing actually is. Its this willing self delusion thats been present ever since the UFC started blowing up and rapidly gaining ground on boxing. If boxing is 20 times bigger globally why is it the UFC gets more Youtube views and social media numbers than boxing for the most part? wouldnt that actually be a relatively solid gauge of overall interest given that those platforms are widely used around the world and freely accessible to anyone? Which boxing promotion in Japan is bigger than Rizin (or K1 kickboxing for that matter) or Pride back in the day? which boxing promotion anywhere in Asia is running higher profile events than One FC? outside of the UK what boxing promotions are there in Europe that are bigger than KSW?




                  Lol, its had massive decade on decade growth since its inception and has generated over 3 million total buys from 4 PPVs in the opening quarter of the year. Meanwhile boxings first PPV of the year is going to be a youtuber vs an MMA fighter. Dont forget other high profile boxing bouts this year including an ODH comeback possibly vs an MMA fighter, another Tyson exhibition, maybe Floyd/Logan Paul, JCC jr vs Anderson Silva and Eddie Hall vs The Mountain. But yes its the UFC thats declining and has no stars lol.





                  Maybe not. But people probably aint gonna be talking about Fury, Joshua or Wilder either, or anyone in modern boxing to the same degree that they'll talk about Conor and Khabib.


                  Kinda besides the point though, you said theres nobody in MMA that destroys people like Tyson did. But you've got a UFC HW champ right now thats brutally knocked out his last 5 opponents in less than 10 minutes combined. And they were all top 10-15 level opponents.
                  Just to emphasize what a dunce this poster is 15 of the top 20 PPV fights with the largest sales numbers of all time are boxing matches compared to 5 MMA and that's just in the US lol Globally is another thing altogether.

                  How can there be that much of a disparity while deluded UFC ****s spend their time coming to boxing forums to troll? watch fights instead clearly not enough of you are.

                  Seven of the top ten PPV fights of all time are boxing matches **** off and go and troll a WWE forum instead.
                  Last edited by nubianpiye; 03-30-2021, 06:19 AM.

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                  • nubianpiye
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by TMLT87

                    Boxing fans cling to this idea but in reality the gap globally is nowhere near as big as some would like to think. The UFC ran 20 different shows outside of America in 2019 alone. 10 of their 12 belts are currently held by champions who arent American, would be 11 if not for a last minute DQ recently. On most weekends of the year you can practically guarantee that theres more eyes spread out across a larger range of countries for the UFC than some PBC, Top Rank, Matchroom etc card too, this is backed up by the UFC generally pulling larger numbers on Youtube and social media than boxing does. Then you factor in ONE FC, Rizin, KSW, ACA, M-1, FNG, RCC etc that are all based outside of the US. People try to downplay MMA outside of the UFC but look at the subscriber/view count on some of those foreign MMA promotions too, One FC has more subscribers than PBC, Top Rank and Matchroom combined. Reality is in 90% of countries they're both niche sports, but the UFC at least has a cult following practically everywhere similar to the WWE. Places like the UK and Mexico are outliers where boxing is mainstream.
                    I'm still not done with this dunce where are you? he went from UFC is bigger to boxing to boxing is bigger globally but nowhere near as big as you think which is it? you dumb ****? So now you admit boxing is bigger which highlights what a dumb**** post this was in the first place you ****ing pendejo.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by War Room

                      He's not the face of MMA?

                      Historical top earner in the sport, nobody comes close.
                      Worth 120 million, his shetty whiskey sold 1 billion in 2019
                      $37 million (2020-2021) with $16 million in endorsements.

                      NOBODY COMES CLOSE to his earnings in UFC. McGregor IS the UFC lmao.

                      Why would they use him to represent their entire franchise?



                      No real fan of UFC cares about McMuffin? You trippin!
                      Biggest purse is 1M. That says all you need to know.

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