Cotto Does Not Agree With The WBO's Weight Stance

[dondi330]

This wieght issue is getting out of hand so i come in peace to provide a solution but in order to do so let me speculate so everybody can understand

Let's say Pacquiao beats Cotto for the title at 145
Let's say Mosley fight and beats Berto and unifies both titles.
Let's say Pacquiao and Mosley agreed to fight at 140 (like Mosley has already said he would) what will the WBO do in this case?? If you ask me they will sell their own division again and accept this even if it will not be in the WW weight class of 141-145, oopps i'm sorry from 141-147.

Let Say Pacquiao and Mosley do fight for all the WW titles at 144 and Pacquao wins, will all his challengers have to fight him for the WW titles at 144??

Hell let resolve the WBO issue, from know on we can have a WW CHAMPION "A" from 141 UP TO 147 like the current WBO championship regulations stipulate and then we can also have a WW CHAMPION "B" from 141 UP TO 145 and we can call it Varcarcel cash in regulations. This will resolve all their problems and they can even cash in with both WW CHAMPIONS "A" and "B".
Well, to me honestly, the last paragraph doesn't make sense but to Varcarcel it probably will.

But you know what, it makes the same sense of those who say that a WW title should be on the line for non WW class fight. True 145 falls within the range, BUT 141-145 is not an existing class weight.
Remember this has only happened in the past because the fighters had agreed to it not because the organization made it mandatory.

The rules and regulations for a WBO Championship WW fight are loud and clear, it is UP TO 147 NOT UP TO 145. By agreeing to the fight at a maximum 145 weight you are LIMITING, RESTICTING AND CHANGING THE RANGE OF THE DEFINITION AND REGULATION OF A WW CLASS.

Not to mention they signed a contract that never stipulated the belt.

[Dave Rado]

From 141-147, is Welterweight unless it is being scheduled as a catchweight bout.

No, you can weigh anything you like up to a maximum of 147lb. Henry Armstrong only weighed 133lb when he won the Welterweight title and weighed under 140lb in most of his defences. If you don't believe me, see here.

The WBO rules clearly state that there is no lower limit, only an upper limit of 147lb. If you don't believe me, see here.

[JAS_JAS]

Clottey was a champion and a much better fighter than DLH, Hatton, Diaz,JMM

GTFOH!! he wasnt even ranked in the top 10 pound for pound rankings in any list, the Great Manny Pacquiao's resume ****s on everyone's resume currently active in boxing right now, that is why he is the MAN.

[ThunderWolf]

Why would you create special rules for Pac?
They both signed a contract to fight at 145, then when its all said and done, then Pac starts creating rules.

Not to mention they signed a contract that never stipulated the belt.

These are very grave errors. Let me correct you that both fighters have not signed the contracts. Both only received drafts of the contract, and Arum formally informed the public and media on the match prematurely without informing the Pacquiao Camp, which drew the ire of its lawyers.

One simple solution for Pacquiao is simply not sign. What would he gain if this would be just an exhibition match, not a championship match, yet he would be fighting a champion at the 141-147 division? What would he gain if he establishes a very very hard victory yet people smear his victory just because its the maximum that he can do against a very tough and unusually heavy opponent at fight night?

I advise Pacquiao to simply not sign and just fight Berto at 147 for a crown. Would Cotto and his fans complain? Oh, yes they will. But Pac and his fans don`t really need him.

That`s when the real crying starts, ask PBF who could have had the honor and chance to fight and defeat a P4P champ outright but blew it.

[Talisayen]

These are very grave errors. Let me correct you that both fighters have not signed the contracts. Both only received drafts of the contract, and Arum formally informed the public and media on the match prematurely without informing the Pacquiao Camp, which drew the ire of its lawyers.

One simple solution for Pacquiao is simply not sign. What would he gain if this would be just an exhibition match, not a championship match, yet he would be fighting a champion at the 141-147 division? What would he gain if he establishes a very very hard victory yet people smear his victory just because its the maximum that he can do against a very tough and unusually heavy opponent at fight night?

I advise Pacquiao to simply not sign and just fight Berto at 147 for a crown. Would Cotto and his fans complian? Oh, yes they will. But Pac and his fans don`t really need him.

That`s when the real crying starts, ask PBF who had the chance to fight a P4P champ but blew it.

Good job thunder...
I just gave you a green K

[Gabilan]

These are very grave errors. Let me correct you that both fighters have not signed the contracts. Both only received drafts of the contract, and Arum formally informed the public and media on the match prematurely without informing the Pacquiao Camp, which drew the ire of its lawyers.

One simple solution for Pacquiao is simply not sign. What would he gain if this would be just an exhibition match, not a championship match, yet he would be fighting a champion at the 141-147 division? What would he gain if he establishes a very very hard victory yet people smear his victory just because its the maximum that he can do against a very tough and unusually heavy opponent at fight night?

I advise Pacquiao to simply not sign and just fight Berto at 147 for a crown. Would Cotto and his fans complian? Oh, yes they will. But Pac and his fans don`t really need him.

That`s when the real crying starts, ask PBF who could have had the honor and chance to fight and defeat a P4P champ outright but blew it.

Very easy to say when you are not the one that will have to accept a much smaller purse to fight Berto. And I'm talking about Pac not Cotto. What people don't get is that in many ways Cotto does not really care. He wants the fight of course because it will propel him to the top of the boxing world but if push comes to shove he'll just fight somebody else.

Everybody keeps saying that Cotto needs Pac; Well the truth is that after Mayweather the biggest money maker for Pac is Cotto, so Pac does need him as well. Otherwise, Pac fights Berto (no fan base, much less interest, two promoters involved), Mosley (fight will take place in Dec. at the earliest and again, smaller fan base, probably same interest, two promoters), or sits on his hands till Mayweather fights JMM. In the latter case Pac has to wait until Feb. at the earliest to fight again, just when his campaign for political office begins.

I think that's why Cotto is willing to stand behind his stated position. He, unlike other observers, knows Pac needs him. The same reason that some Ricans don't like Cotto - too serious, too lackadaisical, too business-like - are why Cotto will let Pac walk away if he gets to problematic. Cotto has a lot of money and a contract that stipulates a min. of 6 million per fight. Not bad. Your move Pac.

[JAS_JAS]

Pac ain't even a ****in WW Cotto. Just put up the belt and KO the lil guy.

co-sign!!, that's if cotto can do that

[JAS_JAS]

Bob Arum is a pimp and he especially pimps Cotto hard. Kind of
bad how they treat Cotto sometimes, considering he is always a
quiet guy and fights who he is supposed to. Should have a lil more
respect for the guy in my opinion. The contract didn't stipulate that
the fight is for the title and now their saying it's for the title? Sounds
like Manny has and is holding all the cards. If you ask me, Manny is
a lil more demanding than Floyd. I am rooting for Cotto to win because
someone has to stop the forces of Roach/Pacquiao in the Sport of
Boxing.

what contract? its a rough draft not finalized not signed, if they agreed to fight at 145 lbs and the title being on the line, will you people STFU? these are grown ass men who knows what their doing and signing. you people ***** about everything regarding the Great Manny Pacquiao, you should be happy he's making exciting and meaningful fights, i wish manny would retire after this fight and let the bitching and whining people get stuck with the likes of BORING ASS PBF, lets see if he gets you at the edge of your seat.

[briggs33]

NO **** !!!! People give Pacquiao **** for beating DLH... Dehydrated or not...Its a better win than Jennings. LOL World Champ my ass!

yeah the jenings fight was weak but can youname a champion better at WW than Cotto??? the guy has fought 5 of the top 10 WW and his 1 loss is tainted and in whch he was still winnning the fight

[briggs33]

Better than JMM? NO Way! DLH In his prime would beat the hell out of Clottey. Diaz Hatton,,,Clottey I think would beat. Im a fan of Clottey too. Cotto IMO Didnt beat Clottey. I had Clottey up by a point. A gift win...again!

ahahaha you had him up by 1 point and its a gift??? a gift is a fight where ou lose by a few rounds and get it...1 point is just a slight diference in opinion hahaha