Cotto Does Not Agree With The WBO's Weight Stance

[Shadow boxer 3]

Although i understand Cotto's point of view, but he and you guys should also understand that there is no point of Manny fighting Cotto without the title. Give me any other reason why Manny should fight Cotto other than for the belt. There isn't any. Manny doesn't need Cotto. I don't think Cotto needs Manny either, but he won't get a bigger payday with anyone else right now.

if theres no point in fightin cotto without the title than pac should go fight someone else. Mosley is more than willing to put his belt on the line.

[GRUSTLER]

If none of you can understand this logic, then don't bother understanding and no one else should bother explaining. If Cotto already agreed to 145lbs, then it shouldn't really matter whether the belt is on the line or not, unless he wants more money. If that is the case which is reasonable BTW, then just say so. If the 2lbs gives Cotto such a huge advantage, then he shouldn't have agreed to 145lbs in the first place, regardless of the belt being on the line or not.

I would ask for more $ then and just do it BUT the way it is
looking is that Roach and company are just pimping Cotto
and won't pay him nothing. When fighters first come to the
table to negotiate, it is established in the beginning whether
the fight is a title or non title fight AND I think that is what
Cotto wanted it to be. If Pac would have wanted it a title fight
from the jump I'm sure Cotto would have told him to agree on
147 from the get AND that's why they waited till the majority
of the deal was agreed upon and through this bonus in later.

[Gabilan]

if theres no point in fightin cotto without the title than pac should go fight someone else. Mosley is more than willing to put his belt on the line.

Exactly. If it was just for the belt there's Mosley or even Hlatshwayo (jajaja). Pac is nearing the end of his career and has to make as much money as he can with these fights. He has earned it but it makes negotiations difficult.

[GRUSTLER]

Catchweight has been around for a long time. And Fighters have been fighting for titles at Catchweight throughout the years. What Cotto and Manny are doing is in no way beyond history. Its been done before Its not uncommon for a fighter to challenge a bigger fighter in a a higher weight class for his title at a agreed upon weight in an higher class! Id like to see Cotto Man up and say **** the title and fight . Not this crybaby bull **** he is doing now. If you can beat Manny the title aint gonna matter. Fight goddamn it...I would give Cotto all respect and wouldnt be ragging on him as much.

I think it is more personal for Cotto. He feels like their playing him.
He already agreed to everything and now they want more. I think
that the title should have been established when everything first
began then things could of been clearer for Cotto.

[rommel357]

I would ask for more $ then and just do it BUT the way it is
looking is that Roach and company are just pimping Cotto
and won't pay him nothing. When fighters first come to the
table to negotiate, it is established in the beginning whether
the fight is a title or non title fight AND I think that is what
Cotto wanted it to be. If Pac would have wanted it a title fight
from the jump I'm sure Cotto would have told him to agree on
147 from the get AND that's why they waited till the majority
of the deal was agreed upon and through this bonus in later.

I EDITED my post #110.

Certainly and i completely agree with you. Cotto is the biggest draw other than Mayweather. But that's not what Manny and his camp wants and needs. They need that 7th title badly. IMO, they're getting ridiculous about it. I have no idea why they turned down Mosley, you would think it would make more sense. But i think Arum is just being business minded and smart about this. With Cotto and Manny being under him, he has nothing to worry about (so he thought and he was wrong), with Mosley under Golden Boy, it would have been a pain in the ass, besides the fact that he has to share revenues.

[OragonMan]

Cotto with 1 lb difference from his previous fight is already chickening out. Pacquiao should just take Mosley's offer who can even go down to 140lb. Mosley even fought at higher weight limit than Cotto is. But I should say Pacquiao should met Mosley in the middle at 143-144.

[Shadow boxer 3]

Cotto with 1 lb difference from his previous fight is already chickening out. Pacquiao should just take Mosley's offer who can even go down to 140lb. Mosley even fought at higher weight limit than Cotto is. But I should say Pacquiao should met Mosley in the middle at 143-144.

either 140 or 147. **** this catchweight ****.

[Sudo]

After what Mosley had done to Margarito, Roach will avoid him... He isn't ******, he knows what would happen.

[GRUSTLER]

Certainly and i completely agree with you. Cotto is the biggest draw other than Mayweather. But that's not what Manny and his camp wants and needs. They need that 7th title badly. IMO, they're getting ridiculous about it. I have no idea why they turned down Mosley, you would think it would make more sense. But i think Arum is just being business minded and smart about this. With Cotto and Manny being under him, he has nothing to worry about (so he thought and he was wrong), with Mosley under Golden Boy, it would have been a pain in the ass, besides the fact that he has to share revenues.

So basically this fight is all about what Arum wants? I thought it
was about Pacquiao and Cotto. At this point, I think a fight with
Mosley would have been easy to make then a fight with Cotto.
Top Rank and Golden Boy made lots of $ together already so
I don't understand why they can't do it again? This is just about
Bob Arum.

[capicu21]

If Cotto would KO Clottey we wont be even talking about this.Roach and Pac would be fighthing a David Diaz or some guy like that waiting for Floyd.