Kotelnik: "Amir Khan is Nothing Special, Done Nothing"

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  • BetterCallSaul
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    #61
    Originally posted by Taco Snatcher
    I won't owe him ****.This is a **** fight!And as far as the sanctioning bodies go,everyone knows,atleast real boxing fans that it is almost all politics that run the show.Think before you type guy!
    A **** fight? Don't think so mate. If it was that **** it wouldn't have your attention.

    And poiltics has always been a part of boxing. Live with it, or don't watch boxing. Simple enough.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Hitman932
      There is no logical reason for Kotelnik to be the underdog to a guy fighting at 140 for the first time who was KTFO in under a minute by a nobody.
      Kotelnik definitely shouldn't be an underdog, but Prescott is rated #8 at Lightweight by The Ring, he's no longer a nobody, and Khan has improved dramatically since teaming up with Roach, so your biased outlook is every bit as illogical as the bias that you're criticising.
      Last edited by Dave Rado; 06-09-2009, 11:26 AM.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        It was Kotelnik's decision to give Khan the shot, in a voluntary defence. Warren offered him a good payday but he couldn't force him to take the fight, Kotelnik just fancied the payday. And Kotelnik is a very good fighter. Although you're right that he's probably the weakest of the belt holders at his weight, it certainly won't be an easy fight for Khan, and if anything he's being rushed much too quickly, because even if he does manage to win, which is far from certain, he hasn't had enough meaningful fights under Roach to be ready to defend the title if he wins it.
        I know it is a voluntary defense but Warren has been talking about getting Khan a shot at this specific belt for some time.

        I get the impression that Warren just wants to cash out on this kid. He is getting old and senile.

        You're right Kotelnik didn't have to take the fight, but he'd have been nuts to turn it down. Khan is the easiest fight for him and he will get paid the most, pretty easy decision.

        Hatton, Witter, Bradley, Holt, Torres would all take Khan out without too much trouble. If people had seen more of Kotelnik they would be able to see that he isn't just some random Euro bum.

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          #64
          khan has no future except face flat on the floor

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            #65
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            Kotelnik definitely shouldn't be an underdog, bit Prescott is rated #8 at Lightweight by The Ring, he's no longer a nobody, and Khan has improved dramatically since teaming up with Roach, so your biased outlook is every bit as illogical as the bias that you're criticising.
            Rating Prescott #8 for beating Khan doesn't make him the 8th best fighter at his weight.

            He is maybe in the top 15 at lightweight but I doubt it. Prescott is a very limited fighter, he is no Ali Funeka for instance.

            It's funny too that people class Prescott as a huge puncher because he stopped Khan. His power is overrated. For instance, he could not even knock out Humberto Toledo, a guy who was stopped in 1 round by the very light hitting Lamont Peterson.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              I know it is a voluntary defense but Warren has been talking about getting Khan a shot at this specific belt for some time.

              I get the impression that Warren just wants to cash out on this kid. He is getting old and senile.

              You're right Kotelnik didn't have to take the fight, but he'd have been nuts to turn it down. Khan is the easiest fight for him and he will get paid the most, pretty easy decision.

              Hatton, Witter, Bradley, Holt, Torres would all take Khan out without too much trouble. If people had seen more of Kotelnik they would be able to see that he isn't just some random Euro bum.
              To be fair, Kotelnik hasn't really beaten anybody of note for a boxer who has had over 30 fights. A loss over Witter, and easy wins over the average M'Baye and Maidana. Kotelnik is a good fighter, but he isn't anything better than that. I give him the slight edge over Khan because of Khans weak chin, but in terms of skills, Khan is lightyears ahead of him.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Hitman932
                Rating Prescott #8 for beating Khan doesn't make him the 8th best fighter at his weight.
                No he wasn't rated by The Ring until he had beaten Toledo. It wasn't on the basis of the Khan fight alone.

                And his KO percentage is extremely high, his reputation as a hard puncher didn't just come from the Khan fight. And despite what you said, Toledo was frequently rocked in their fight, but had enough ring savvy to survive until his DQ.
                Last edited by Dave Rado; 06-09-2009, 11:32 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by timba1988
                  To be fair, Kotelnik hasn't really beaten anybody of note for a boxer who has had over 30 fights. A loss over Witter, and easy wins over the average M'Baye and Maidana. Kotelnik is a good fighter, but he isn't anything better than that. I give him the slight edge over Khan because of Khans weak chin, but in terms of skills, Khan is lightyears ahead of him.
                  12 rounds is a long time for an idiot like Khan to avoid a single significant punch.

                  Kotelnik will find his spot and it will only take one shot to get Khan going.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Puntoyhauf
                    How about a bet on this one? I'll take Kotelnik for 20K.
                    I'm taking Khan.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      No he wasn't rated by The Ring until he had beaten Toledo. It wasn't on the basis of the Khan fight alone.
                      The Toledo that knocked was knocked out in 2 minutes by Lamont Peterson, a fighter with only 13 KOs in 27 Wins?

                      Prescott sure deserves a lot of credit for that. :wank:

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