Kotelnik: "Amir Khan is Nothing Special, Done Nothing"

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  • Dave Rado
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    #121
    Originally posted by lest26
    Kotelniks opponents are of a higher calibre
    Of a higher calibre than Kotelnik? If not, then you'd better be on here giving Khan props if he wins. If you're not, that will prove you are a hater rather than a boxing fan.

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    • lest26
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      #122
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      Of a higher calibre than Kotelnik? If not, then you'd better be on here giving Khan props if he wins. If you're not, that will prove you are a hater rather than a boxing fan.
      yes Kotelnik has faced much sterner opposition than Khan if you think otherwise you must have your head up your arse, Khan has only faced hand picked opponents i dont think anyone is hand picking opponents for Kotelnik do you ? he aint exectly big buisness now is he as Khan is now, and i dont give a **** if you think im a hater ill admit it i dont like Khan or the khan band wagon or anything about the way Khan is given so much yet done so little, id love to see him KO'd again, would be great, but just from a boxing perspective Kotelnik is been underestimated in genreal and hasnt been given any credit at all, Witter would give Khan a world of trouble and Kotelnik handled him well and many would say he won, im not Kotelniks biggest fan but im backing him to beat Khan inside the distance and hope he dose, i am a boxing fan by the way but its fine to have negative opinions on fighters and want them to lose thats what been a fan is all about, i didnt say Kotelnik was of a higher calibre by the way i said of the two men Kotelnik had been in the ring with the better men and he can also handle the bigger men,

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        #123
        Originally posted by lest26
        yes Kotelnik has faced much sterner opposition than Khan,
        You obviously didn't bother to read my post. I asked you if Kotelnik's opposition was of higher calibre than Kotlenik himself, in your opinion. If not (i.e. if you think Kotelnik is better than the fighters he's beaten), then if Khan beats Kotelnik, you'd better give him props after the fight, if you're a boxing fan and not just a hater, because by definition, he will then have beaten a better opponent than Kotelnik has ever beaten.

        As for who has the best résumé that is completely irrelevant. Taylor's résumé was >>>> Froch's résumé but Taylor was still knocked out by Froch. Khan will be fighting Kotlenik, not his résumé. And if Kotelnik didn't have a better résumé at the age of 31 than a 22 year old prospect has, that would be pretty ridiculous, don't you think?
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 06-10-2009, 10:00 PM.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Dave Rado
          You obviously didn't bother to read my post. I asked you if Kotelnik's opposition was of higher calibre than Kotlenik himself, in your opinion. If not (i.e. if you think Kotelnik is better than the fighters he's beaten), then if Khan beats Kotelnik, you'd better give him props after the fight, if you're a boxing fan and not just a hater, because by definition, he will then have beaten a better opponent than Kotelnik has ever beaten.

          As for who has the best résumé that is completely irrelevant. Taylor's résumé was >>>> Froch's résumé but Taylor was still knocked out by Froch. Khan will be fighting Kotlenik, not his résumé. And if Kotelnik didn't have a better résumé at the age of 31 than a 22 year old prospect has, that would be pretty ridiculous, don't you think?
          so many questions.. was kotelniks opposition of a higher calibre than Kotelnik himself, clearly not not based on the results, Witter possiblyas he won but he also had home advantage, so could put them on roughly an even level with witter edging it due to the result but a rematch wouldnt have gone amiss, but i make my judgement on how good i think kotelnik is more based on his style and what ive seen him do in the ring, while khan looks flashy kotelnik looks solid and alround a better boxer, and as for froch lets not forget Taylor was wiping the floor with Froch and in my opinion it was only coz he got lucky he won, oh and i do like Froch so i aint hating on him just been honest as i am with Khan although i do dislike Khan, so no resume is not irrelevent as you can only judge a fighter on his past achievments and on assessment of his abilities i think the experience and the skills lay in Kotelniks advantage while he may concede in other areas such as speed and hieght maybe even weight on the day aswell but if you take a look at Kotelniks fighting style he has good had movment and footwork and is a handy counter puncher that effectivley absorbs attcks with his very neat defence, all im saying is Khans written of this guy before and his words may come back to bite him, lets hope they do.

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            #125
            Originally posted by lest26
            all im saying is Khans written of this guy before and his words may come back to bite him
            That interview was tongue in cheek. He said in another interview that he actually has a lot of respect for Kotelnik. But résumé is irrelevant, especially given the age difference. Apart from the fact that luck had nothing to do with Taylor getting gassed, here's some more examples: Genaro Hernandez had a far better résumé than Floyd Mayweather when they fought; Sonny Liston had a far better résumé than Cassius Clay (as he was then) when they fought; Joe Frazier had a far better résumé than George Foreman when they fought for the first time; Donald Curry had a far better résumé than Lloyd Honeyghan when they fought; and I could give literally hundreds more examples.

            I'm not denying that Kotelnik is a good fighter, look at my other posts in this thread, I've given him props in all my posts - although I think Khan will win in a tough fight. But if Kotelnik wins it will be due to his boxing ability and nothing to do with his having the better résumé.

            My question remains: will you give Khan props if he wins, or are you just a hater?
            Last edited by Dave Rado; 06-10-2009, 10:48 PM.

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