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  • !! Shawn
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    #31
    Originally posted by The_Executioner
    Floyd's a welterweight. 147 pounds. **** all the bull****. During DLH-Mayweather he walked around at 150 pounds.

    He aint making 140...but I aint claiming he's a small welterweight. He's a short man but not a small welterweight...
    Actually, from what I recall, Floyd weighted in at 150 and walked in the ring 148 vs Oscar.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #32
      Originally posted by !! Shawn
      I agree with you in principle, but arguing that Floyd should be fighting at 147, and everyone else should be fighting him at 147 because then he doesn't have to cut weight is ******ed.

      The reality is that cutting weight is part of boxing, and to fight guys his own size he needs to cut weight.

      Making Marquez move up to 147 is offensive to the sport.
      Why is it a part of boxing?

      Why put a number system in place if nobody follows it?

      If you promote a "WW" bout that is set for 147 pounds and few, if any follow it, how is that a WW bout come time to the actual fights?

      When you have one fighter coming in at 147, another in at 154, another at 160, and another at 170...yet all fight in the same division...why is that allowed?

      Why should a fighter that doesn't want to drain himself for the scales because he wants to be healthy for the fight be punished?

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        #33
        Pointless discussion since Marquez isn't obligated to fight Floyd. JMM *wants* this fight, and he wouldn't be taking it (at whatever weight) if he thought he couldn't win.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The_Executioner
          Floyd's a welterweight. 147 pounds. **** all the bull****. During DLH-Mayweather he walked around at 150 pounds.

          He aint making 140...but I aint claiming he's a small welterweight. He's a short man but not a small welterweight...
          he's a small welterweight.

          i have no problems with him not fighting the top welterweights but as long as he doesn't stay at welterweight.

          when he moved up to 154 and won a belt , i had no problem with him not fighting anyone else. he got paid and he got a belt and he moved back down.

          problem is he stays at 147 and he doesn't fight 147 fighters.

          i'm not saying it's fair for floyd to fight giants like marg or paul. hell cotto was small compared to marg and he's a bit thicker than floyd.

          the thing is though. if you want to fight at 147. fight 147 fighters. or at least 140 fighters coming up. to ask a 135 fighter to come up 2 divisions is a joke.

          remember how much **** oscar got for fighting manny. at least oscar had the decency to come down 1 division.

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            #35
            Originally posted by !! Shawn
            Actually, from what I recall, Floyd weighted in at 150 and walked in the ring 148 vs Oscar.
            Ur right but an article said he walked around at 150 pounds(probably not exact). I highly doubt Floyd makes 140 and is healthy.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Benny Leonard
              Why is it a part of boxing?

              Why put a number system in place if nobody follows it?

              If you promote a "WW" bout that is set for 147 pounds and few, if any follow it, how is that a WW bout come time to the actual fights?

              When you have one fighter coming in at 147, another in at 154, another at 160, and another at 170...yet all fight in the same division...why is that allowed?

              Why should a fighter that doesn't want to drain himself for the scales because he wants to be healthy for the fight be punished?
              Well said man, can you send me that article on Marciano. I had to delete everything because it was stacked

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                #37
                Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                Why is it a part of boxing?

                Why put a number system in place if nobody follows it?
                If you promote a "WW" bout that is set for 147 pounds and few, if any follow it, how is that a WW bout come time to the actual fights?

                When you have one fighter coming in at 147, another in at 154, another at 160, and another at 170...yet all fight in the same division...why is that allowed?

                Why should a fighter that doesn't want to drain himself for the scales because he wants to be healthy for the fight be punished?
                how do you enforce it?

                tell me. how would you enforce it?

                same day weigh in. so you want guys to be dehydrated even more at fight time?

                it's unenforceable.

                the rule says make weight at the weigh in. that's what they do.

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                  #38
                  I don't see how he's a "small" welter. Cotto's shorter than him. Clottey is around that height. Mosley is around 5'7 - 5'10. Judah is 5'7.

                  I don't see how he's a small welterweight...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The_Executioner
                    Floyd's a welterweight. 147 pounds. **** all the bull****. During DLH-Mayweather he walked around at 150 pounds.

                    He aint making 140...but I aint claiming he's a small welterweight. He's a short man but not a small welterweight...
                    Thats not true. You dont remember what happened? He only weighed in at 150 because Oscar mandated it in the contract. Thats when Floyd came out talking about how Oscar put all this stuff in the contract to make him lose. He told Floyd that he had to weigh-in at atleast 150 and what did Floyd do? He came in at 150 on the dot and lost 2 pounds before the fight came

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                      Why is it a part of boxing?

                      Why put a number system in place if nobody follows it?

                      If you promote a "WW" bout that is set for 147 pounds and few, if any follow it, how is that a WW bout come time to the actual fights?

                      When you have one fighter coming in at 147, another in at 154, another at 160, and another at 170...yet all fight in the same division...why is that allowed?

                      Why should a fighter that doesn't want to drain himself for the scales because he wants to be healthy for the fight be punished?
                      If its so punishing, the Floyd shouldn't have any problems fighting this big guys that punish themselves to make weight to fight a healthy floyd right?

                      Its been a part of boxing forever. As much as I would love for fighters to be locked in a room and forced to drink 3 gallons of water before they weigh in, iits never going to happen, and for the foreseeable future, cutting will be a part of life.

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