For everyone that says Floyd can't make 140

[QUISQUEYA]

fact is. floyd and his dumb fans just want the easiest fights possible with the lowest possible risks of losing his 0.

if those are the fights he's gonna take (and have been) then might as well stay retired.

And Pac has been doing what? Who are the last 2 guys Floyd fought?

[MaFu MoFo]

PBF is an unique elite athlete. To think ha can't shred 7 pounds is ******ed. PBF chooses not to in order to have more advantage on JMM; end of the story.

So simple. So brilliant!!!

[Burner]

So simple. So brilliant!!!

I already ****ted on your post go back and look what I typed.

[MaFu MoFo]

Originally Posted by raycorey
Even though i think he can make 140 and its unwise for him to do so after a long lay off i still feel he should have ignore JMM's attempt and go after someone like collazo or Berto(If dibella allows) or any of the contenders at 147.

Unwise is for JMM to fight at a 145lbs limit that PBF wants. PBF is GOD for a lot of people out there, then all of the sudden, he is unable, or "wise"...

[Left Hook Tua]

And Pac has been doing what? Who are the last 2 guys Floyd fought?

hatton and delahoya are tougher fights for pac than they are for floyd.

it's a matter of size , styles and matchups.

just because they fought the same 2 guys does not mean it's the same thing.



example:

was oscar and ricky tougher matchups for manny than his other possible opponents like casamayor , juan diaz , nate campbell? possibly.

now was oscar and ricky tougher matchups for floyd than his other possible opponents like margarito , cotto , mosley? doubtful.

see the difference?

oscar was the heavy favorite against pacquiao , while manny is only a slight favorite over hatton.

floyd on the other hand was a heavy favorite against both when he fought them.

[Left Hook Tua]

Tua hate Floyd all you want...but you have to use your head man.

Floyd has been gone 19 months.........

Yes he can make 140 but its not wise for him to do so after a long layoff.

HBO PPV gave Floyd two dates...July 11th and July 18th...

You think HBO is putting money up for Collazo...a guy who lost to a prospect ?

JMM has a nice Mexican fanbase...and is a good opponent for Floyd at 144 and under....


The fight is happening if your so aginst it Dont watch man...

JMM is challenging himself..instead of bitching applaud the man....JMM said 144 and under is fine with him....hes not crying neither should you.

Period man.

Enough already....let it go...its a tune up comeback fight after a 22 month layoff.....

Floyds not DUMB enough to go and fight Mosley after that long of layoff....I mean did you not just see what happened to Winky...after a 2 year layoff and no tune up..he suffred the worse beating of his career.

Floyd isnt retiring after a tune up fight.....

This fight is at 144 pounds....

Floyd has two options afterwards....

Mosley at 147(which he already alluded to.) or Pac-Hatton winner at 140 pounds.

i understand there's the long layoff. a tuneup is fine.

go fight a tuneup against a 147 guy. doesn't have to be a top , elite fighter.

as long as it's just a tuneup and he fights top guys after , it doesn't matter. every fighter fights tuneups. coming from a long layoff it's smart.

the problem is some floyd fans want to have it both ways. they want to excuse this fight as a tuneup and yet their bigging it up to be some big victory if floyd wins.

you can't have both. if he wants a tuneup then fight someone else. if he wants a big win over a big name like marquez then make it a little more fair for marquez.

[Left Hook Tua]

Tua,

You are an idiot. And a liar.

Here is what I said. Is this your idea of whining:

Well... here is what you have to ask yourself: is the fight fair at a catchweight of 141 pounds? That is exactly midway between 135 (where JMM is) annd 147 (where PBF was). Objective people would say 'meet me halfway' sounds fair.

Now, with Floyd being 2 years inactive, is a 2 or 3 pound concession by Marquez fair? Maybe. Maybe not. I think 143/144 is reasonable. Here's why:

i don't lie.

this is OUR conversation. don't get your BULL**** all mixed up.

Marquez is coming up 8 lbs. Floyd is coming down 4.

they decided on 143 already?

still more fair at 140.

floyd can come down 7 and marquez can come up 5.

For the inactive fighter to come down the most?

fuck it then.

fight at 150.

if floyd is so damn good why are you guys so worried about ****.

have him fight raf marquez then. make it at 150. so mayweather has no risk of losing at all.

I ask you a legitimate question, and you throw an estrogen fit.

Wassup with that?

you were whining that he's been inactive so he shouldn't come down in weight.

if he wants a tuneup , then go get a tuneup. against someone in the division he's fighting in.

if he wants to fight marquez he should give concessions to make it a more fair fight. jmm is at 135. floyd is at 147. each move 1 division. jmm will still get his ass kicked at 140 but it makes it a more level playing field.

yes he might be affected by the weight drain but that's the whole point. don't you think marquez will be affected by going up 2 divisions?

fact is. floyd and his dumb fans just want the easiest fights possible with the lowest possible risks of losing his 0.

if those are the fights he's gonna take (and have been) then might as well stay retired.

[Burner]

i understand there's the long layoff. a tuneup is fine.

go fight a tuneup against a 147 guy. doesn't have to be a top , elite fighter.as long as it's just a tuneup and he fights top guys after , it doesn't matter. every fighter fights tuneups. coming from a long layoff it's smart.

the problem is some floyd fans want to have it both ways. they want to excuse this fight as a tuneup and yet their bigging it up to be some big victory if floyd wins.

you can't have both. if he wants a tuneup then fight someone else. if he wants a big win over a big name like marquez then make it a little more fair for marquez.

I already told you HBO PPV aint putting up money to see Collazo a guy who just LOST to a prospect.

JMM was his only logical choice.

[Bhopreign]

What are pictures from years ago supposed to prove. Im sure you would say Hopkins cant make 160 anymore but you will say Floyd can make 140?

[Bhopreign]

i understand there's the long layoff. a tuneup is fine.

go fight a tuneup against a 147 guy. doesn't have to be a top , elite fighter.

as long as it's just a tuneup and he fights top guys after , it doesn't matter. every fighter fights tuneups. coming from a long layoff it's smart.

the problem is some floyd fans want to have it both ways. they want to excuse this fight as a tuneup and yet their bigging it up to be some big victory if floyd wins.

you can't have both. if he wants a tuneup then fight someone else. if he wants a big win over a big name like marquez then make it a little more fair for marquez.

We call it a tuneup because the bigger picture is Pacquiao, that doesnt mean Marquez isnt a great fighter but rather there is a bigger picture to get to. Some would have called Sturm a tuneup for Oscar, yes Sturm was/is a good fighter, but the bigger picture at the time was Hopkins.