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  • Benny Leonard
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    #21
    Originally posted by Al Coholic
    Get off his nuts, if he don't want to be classed as a WW, he shouldn't fight at the WW weight. The best boxer in the world refuses to fight anybody in his weight class and he should be allowed to get away with it? What a ****ing joke.

    Same way you have Clottey who weighs 170 by fight-time fighting as a WW...when you have a real WW in Floyd who could make 147 by fight-time...the actual listed division weight.

    Floyd's fighting in his weight class....I can't say the same about manny others.

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    • Sin City
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      #22
      that's all bull****.. he wouldn't let HBO weigh him on fight night for the Ricky Hatton fight for a reason, he is a legit welter and didn't want the public to know what was his weight.

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      • !! Shawn
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        #23
        Originally posted by Bobbo
        You picked 2 back to back fights that weren't 2 years apart, his first 2 in the WW division. Again, I think the Floyd that fought Hatton could have moved down, Floyd who hasn't fought in 2 years though? I have no idea.
        No, I chose the Chop Chop Corley fight that took place on 5-2004 and the Judah fight that took place on 4-2006, so it was technically 1 year 11 months.

        You would think that age would give it away too you. Since he is 27 in one and 29 in the other...

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          #24
          Originally posted by !! Shawn
          No, I chose the Chop Chop Corley fight that took place on 5-2004 and the Judah fight that took place on 4-2006, so it was technically 1 year 11 months.
          Well *** you for correcting me at 3:11am.











          I just farted.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Sin City
            that's all bull****.. he wouldn't let HBO weigh him on fight night for the Ricky Hatton fight for a reason, he is a legit welter and didn't want the public to know what was his weight.
            Thats not true man. Floyd has had his weight up there for every fight except the Oscar & Hatton fights which were promoted by Oscar who was famous for never allowing his weight to be seen since he outweighed guys by so much at the lower weights. In every other fight Floyd has his weight up. What does he have to hide? Just look at his other fights. There all basically the same weight

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #26
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              IT

              WILL

              NEVER

              HAPPEN



              even if you do a ringside weigh in people will still cut weight.

              besides......i'm of the opinion that marquez is at a disadvantage if both come in without cutting weight. i want to see as fair a fight as possible. if floyd loses a little something cutting to 140 , it'll help give marquez a chance. small chance but every little bit helps.
              So then you are saying a good win is to see who can cut weight the best without hurting their bodies?

              Look what happened to Oscar...
              That's a great win for Pac?
              Well, maybe by your philosophy of Pac beating Oscar in the War: The War of who can make weight without killing themselves.
              I understand it, but I don't agree with it.

              How much credit will Floyd get for fighting fighters that are 10-20 pounds heavier than him?

              If JMM beats a weight-drained Floyd, how is that a good win...and honorable win?

              Fight the Fighter, not the weight. You call someone out and you should fight a healthy fighter.

              Did Sam Langford need "catch-weights"?
              Did he ask Jack Johnson to come down in weight or Sam McVey or the many others?
              Last edited by Benny Leonard; 04-30-2009, 02:17 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Al Coholic
                Get off his nuts, if he don't want to be classed as a WW, he shouldn't fight at the WW weight. The best boxer in the world refuses to fight anybody in his weight class and he should be allowed to get away with it? What a ****ing joke.
                quoted for truth.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  So then you are saying a good win is to see who can cut weight the best without hurting their bodies?

                  Look what happened to Oscar...
                  That's a great win for Pac?
                  Well, maybe by your philosophy of Pac beating Oscar in the War: The War of who can make weight without killing themselves.
                  I understand it, but I don't agree with it.

                  How much credit will Floyd get for fighting fighters that are 10-20 pounds heavier than him?

                  If JMM beats a weight-drained Floyd, how is that a good win...and honorable win?

                  Fight the Fighter, not the weight. You call someone out and you should fight a healthy fighter.

                  Did Sam Langford need "catch-weights"?
                  Did he ask Jack Johnson to come down in weight or Sam McVey or the many others?
                  I agree with you in principle, but arguing that Floyd should be fighting at 147, and everyone else should be fighting him at 147 because then he doesn't have to cut weight is ******ed.

                  The reality is that cutting weight is part of boxing, and to fight guys his own size he needs to cut weight.

                  Making Marquez move up to 147 is offensive to the sport.

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    So then you are saying a good win is to see who can cut weight the best without hurting their bodies?

                    Look what happened to Oscar...
                    That's a great win for Pac?
                    Well, maybe by your philosophy of Pac beating Oscar in the War: The War of who can make weight without killing themselves.

                    How much credit will Floyd get for fighting fighters that are 10-20 pounds heavier than him?

                    If JMM beats a weight-drained Floyd, how is that a good win...and honorable win?

                    Fight the Fighter, not the weight. You call someone out and you should fight.

                    Did Sam Langford need "catch-weights"?
                    Did he ask Jack Johnson to come down in weight or Sam McVey or the many others?
                    enough with the weight drain issue , uncle benny.

                    you and i both know nothing will change.

                    EVERY single sport that has a weight class whether it be wrestling , weightlifting , boxing , judo......whatever , people cut weight.

                    that's just the way it is. it will never change. you can't enforce it.

                    people should fight in the weight class they feel the most comfortable in.

                    if floyd doesn't like being outweighed by 10-20 lbs. he shouldn't be in that division where most opponents are 10-20 lbs. over him.

                    if he wants to stay in that division don't ask some guy to come up 2 divisions just because you don't want to fight guys in your division that do outweigh you by 10-20 lbs.

                    simple fact. floyd wants an easy win. the end.

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                      #30
                      Floyd's a welterweight. 147 pounds. **** all the bull****. During DLH-Mayweather he walked around at 150 pounds.

                      He aint making 140...but I aint claiming he's a small welterweight. He's a short man but not a small welterweight...

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