Can a Klitschko still be an ATG?

[Smash]

I see them as who they really are - just regular human beings like everybody else.

Exactly. More than that, they are the best at the moment. It doesnt matter where they are from. The fact is there are some americans who wont every give european fighters (east or west) due credit.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

the klitschkos are all-time greats.

but no matter what they do or who they beat, the klitschkos will never be considered all-time greats because of their skin is the wrong color and because they come from the wrong country.

the "experts" will just say their opponents are no good, no matter who they beat.

Right now there's a lot of excitement about david haye, but he'll be despised and called a bum (the way ray austin and all the others were) after wlad kos him.

no they are not atg they are good fighters but not alltime greats.

Larry holmes is black and american and he got no respect from the media and he is atg.
Robert duran is not black or american and he is a alltime great and i can name many other fighters who are not american or blacks who are atg but you just see skin color as a excuess for someone not thinking like you.

[dans]

no they are not atg they are good fighters but not alltime greats.

Larry holmes is black and american and he got no respect from the media and he is atg.
Robert duran is not black or american and he is a alltime great and i can name many other fighters who are not american or blacks who are atg but you just see skin color as a excuess for someone not thinking like you.

Cosign.

It's his opinion, he can have it, but don't talk like it's the truth and anyone who doesn't believe it is racist. We're not all like that.

[Smash]

sorry thats not true alot of fans dont like boring fighters no matter who they are or where they come from.

Im trying to imagine a "boring" world champ with so many KO's and a good guy being from my area, hhhmm i think he would be well liked by most, just not adored maybe

[Chase8400]

If the Klitschko's are boring, I want to be a boring undisputed heavyweight force with my older brother too.

The facts remain that they both have a higher KO ratio than Mike Tyson and Gorge Foreman but still are called boring based on one fight that Wladimir was matched with a bad style for him.(Ibragimov)

It's disheartening that most of the boxing public is so narrow minded.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

if the klitschko's are boring, i want to be a boring undisputed heavyweight force with my older brother too.

The facts remain that they both have a higher ko ratio than mike tyson and gorge foreman but still are called boring based on one fight that wladimir was matched with a bad style matchup.(ibragimov)it's disheartening that most of the boxing public is so narrow minded.

wlad is boring imo because he is way to cautious

and vital is geeting boring because of the four year layoff and his age is catching upto him you can see he is not the same fighter.

Ps having the best ko raitng don't make you a atg.

[Chase8400]

I don't see any signs of Vitali declining whatsoever. He just came off of two very dominating wins after being retired for 4 years, the first in history to ever do so actually. Not even Louis or Ali were able to do that. That probably has a bearing on his ATG status more so than having the highest KO ratio of any heavyweight champion in history. The KO ratio is testimony to him being an exciting fighter though, in my opinion.

[dans]

I don't see any signs of Vitali declining whatsoever. He just came off of two very dominating wins after being retired for 4 years, the first in history to ever do so actually. Not even Louis or Ali were able to do that. That probably has a bearing on his ATG status more so than having the highest KO ratio of any heavyweight champion in history. The KO ratio is testimony to him being an exciting fighter though, in my opinion.

Being an exciting fighter is not a quality, for the most part. If people think the brothers are boring, then it's because they're boring to them. It's an opinion. You can't just say "you guys are dumb if you think they're boring", it doesn't make much sense.

You think they're exciting, so they're exciting, to you.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

I don't see any signs of Vitali declining whatsoever. He just came off of two very dominating wins after being retired for 4 years, the first in history to ever do so actually. Not even Louis or Ali were able to do that. That probably has a bearing on his ATG status more so than having the highest KO ratio of any heavyweight champion in history. The KO ratio is testimony to him being an exciting fighter though, in my opinion.

was Tye Fields a exciting fighter he had 37 ko and 41 wins imo what make it exciting is not that you get the ko but how you get like ik a fighter just jab jab jab jab for ten round and wears the other fighter down then gets the ko imo that not very exciting.

tyson was a exciting fighter because as soon as the bell ring he trying to get the ko where as wlad like to wear a fighter down then try to get the ko imo which make the fight boring at times

[portuge puncher]

If the Klitschko's are boring, I want to be a boring undisputed heavyweight force with my older brother too.

The facts remain that they both have a higher KO ratio than Mike Tyson and Gorge Foreman but still are called boring based on one fight that Wladimir was matched with a bad style for him.(Ibragimov)

It's disheartening that most of the boxing public is so narrow minded.

ko's are usally exciting, but the problem is i cant stay awake long enough to see it lol.
but in all honesty, they will never be ATG's, its not there fault, its just a fact. they are taller, and always outwiegh there opponits, plus most of there opponits are bums, imo there are not ATG's, and i really dont see it happening.