Can a Klitschko still be an ATG?

[StarshipTrooper]

Serious question Poet. I know you know your stuff, but try a little comparison to Larry Holmes reign. Surely the division that time is about as poor as it is today.

That aint too long ago.

While Holmes' era was not good it certainly wasn't as putrid as THIS. The only era I can remember comparable was when Holmes was on his way out and Tyson on his way in and complete jokes like Berbick and Tubbs had belts.

Poet

[dans]

You don't like the Klitschkos because they are from a former Soviet republic.

You're an old man I see, so you lived through the cold war era. Hanging on to those old cold war attitudes doesn't help you fit into the modern world.

Then why do you perpetuate those attitudes by bringing up race all the time? The first thing you posted in this thread used race/nationality as an excuse why the brothers aren't considered ATGs.

[Smash]

In a decent era Vitali (not Wlad) may be a top contender but not a dominant champion. Wlad would be lucky to crack the top ten.

Im not going to argue with that

Its a bit of a pity that the heavies exclude certain nationalities almost completely. A few crazy south americans or mexicans as heavies would be great going at each other like there was no tomorrow, bye bye boring heavies

[Chase8400]

Soviet pukes hanging together.....when they should just go hang themselves.

Poet

What a nationalistic ******* you are. Get the f.uck out of my thread already. You don't deserve to be here anymore.

You are now on my ignore list too asshat motherf.ucker.

[StarshipTrooper]

You don't like the Klitschkos because they are from a former Soviet republic.

You're an old man I see, so you lived through the cold war era. Hanging on to those old cold war attitudes doesn't help you fit into the modern world.

Maybe the fact you wave the red flag everytime you post and you nuthug Soviet fighters. That wouldn't have anything to do with it would it?

Poet

[Smash]

People like fighters who win. If a "boring" K brother was from your block in america he would be a hero and you would say stuff like, haha try to beat him, he will find a way to win, cos hes better than you!

At the moment the k brothers rule the heavies, and they also speak several languages, are very clever and probably lots of other things too. Overall good guys. Maybe they are actually middle class guys after all (just a thought).

[The Hammer]

Maybe the fact you wave the red flag everytime you post and you nuthug Soviet fighters. That wouldn't have anything to do with it would it?

Poet

No, I don't do that at all. I'm very anti-communist in my political opinions. I like the Klitschkos because they are great heavyweights, not because of where they're from - I'm definitely not a fan of Nicolay Valuev.

The problem is, because you're an ignorant old man who grew up during the cold war, you see the fighters from the former Soviet republics as being communists!

I see them as who they really are - just regular human beings like everybody else.

[Smash]

The k brother also show up looking the part. You dont see flabby tubby hanging stomachs like you do with some others coff coff. They are ultra professional and make a lot of sense when talking unlike some other past champions coff coff (sorry ive got a coff). They are also making a lot of money KO'ing everyone left right and center and must be wondering at this stage what this boxing thing is all about, its so easy.

Im sure they would love to have an american to challenge them for the belts, but vitali takes four years off, comes back and there is still noone there, as someone says its your opponets that show if you are ATG, the K's dont really have any1

[FUC_U_PAYME]

people like fighters who win. If a "boring" k brother was from your block in america he would be a hero and you would say stuff like, haha try to beat him, he will find a way to win, cos hes better than you!

At the moment the k brothers rule the heavies, and they also speak several languages, are very clever and probably lots of other things too. Overall good guys. Maybe they are actually middle class guys after all (just a thought).

sorry thats not true alot of fans dont like boring fighters no matter who they are or where they come from.

[Chase8400]

both bros i can see in the ATG class. i hardly stop laughing when people think 6'1" heavies can be a bigger problem to them than guys like ll.

reality has to set in for most of these, "good old days" fans.

a pissed off vitali i would place my money on vs anyone. a properly prepared and mentally ready wladimir would give anyone trouble imo.

all u guys have to remember, all u have are opinions. and most of u dont box of fight. just remember that.

so stop ur bull**** hard trash talking like u are in a fighters camp or something.

Outstanding post. It moved me. I'll leave it at that.