Can a Klitschko still be an ATG?

[StarshipTrooper]

LOL if the k brothers were american id bet you they would be in the p4p listings. 2 dominating american heavyweighs not in the p4p lists -- sorry i dont think so. I dont see how a guy with say vitalis size, chin and power could not cause any1 in the ring problems, how would he do against the greats of yesteryear, who knows but he would cause them problems. The problem is that they cant prove they are ATG because noone can properly challenge them.

I think its great see more competition coming from east europe since the fall of the soviet block. In years gone by it was just American v American in some of the big fights (expecially heavies) now its not. Now its east euro v east euro in the heavies and its up to an american to step up to the increase challenges and make some serious money for himself by taking the heavy belts

First off, I never put Heavyweights in p4p lists so that point is moot. Second, if the Klitschkos were American they'd still be slow, clumsy, robotic Gerry Cooney clones (he's American remember?) and I still wouldn't label them ATGs. The Klitschko's could come from bum-**** Egypt for all I care.

Poet

[The Hammer]

LOL if the k brothers were american id bet you they would be in the p4p listings. 2 dominating american heavyweighs not in the p4p lists -- sorry i dont think so. I dont see how a guy with say vitalis size, chin and power could not cause any1 in the ring problems, how would he do against the greats of yesteryear, who knows but he would cause them problems. The problem is that they cant prove they are ATG because noone can properly challenge them.

I think its great see more competition coming from east europe since the fall of the soviet block. In years gone by it was just American v American in some of the big fights (expecially heavies) now its not. Now its east euro v east euro in the heavies and its up to an american to step up to the increase challenges and make some serious money for himself by taking the heavy belts

Excellent post!

[StarshipTrooper]

Excellent post!

Soviet pukes hanging together.....when they should just go hang themselves.

Poet

[Smash]

Ok so there may be a lot of potential heavy champs in nfl and basket ball making nice money, but boxing is an individual sport and being an undisputed heavy champ (the badest man on the planet) must still have some draw to some in america (i think?). Maybe its just a matter of time and these things occur in cycles. I think the world needs at least another tyson to come along and shake things up. Imagine a man like tyson in prime v a k brother. It would be great.

The K brothers are not the best movers and shakers in the world, but they must have something going on to dominate like they do. If you are that big maybe u automatically look slow and clumsy. The real problem is they havnt been properly tested and challenged. They would either then be exposed / would have to adapt and improve in a rematch or be shown to be great heavies.

[Smash]

Soviet pukes hanging together.....when they should just go hang themselves.

Poet

Now now they just might come and spank that jealous ass of yours

[Chase8400]

McCall and Rahman were far better fighters than Ross ****ing Purrity. Purrity was and is a joke which makes anyone who loses to him especially by KO an even bigger joke. Lennox Lewis lost twice against better fighters than any of Wlad's KO losses have been to. So stick that in your hammer and sickle and smoke it.

Poet

Hammer and Sickle, lol. Hahahahahahaha!

That same Ross 'The Boss' Purrity dropped prime Tommy Morrison twice and was a very durable fighter. I bet you also don't even know that Wlad thoroughly dominated him until he gassed out because you didn't care enough to even research it. Personally I couldn't care less about your one sided & bias opinion but for the sake of the thread, I'll stick up for objectiveness again.

Oliver McCall was a damn bumb and still is. Hasim Rahman was a bumb and still is. Just because people know who they are don't mean ****. They are both known for pulling off upsets over LL and they even put his damn lights out completely with one shot. Have you ever seen Wlad's lights put out with a single shot? Don't answer, it's a trick question.

In closing, here's a big old howdy and from good ol' Dallas, TX USA. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it because obviously you're on dope.

[ßringer]

Ok so there may be a lot of potential heavy champs in nfl and basket ball making nice money, but boxing is an individual sport and being an undisputed heavy champ (the badest man on the planet) must still have some draw to some in america (i think?). Maybe its just a matter of time and these things occur in cycles. I think the world needs at least another tyson to come along and shake things up. Imagine a man like tyson in prime v a k brother. It would be great.

The K brothers are not the best movers and shakers in the world, but they must have something going on to dominate like they do. If you are that big maybe u automatically look slow and clumsy. The real problem is they havnt been properly tested and challenged. They would either then be exposed / would have to adapt and improve in a rematch or be shown to be great heavies.

I'd love to see it too, but the sad truth is it's probably just not going to happen.

Boxing isn't that popular in the U.S. anymore, it's a fringe sport.

The amount of time, and dedication one must put into training to make it in this game is unheard of in the sports world. It's easily one of the most greuling sports one can compete in.

And you don't make much money, until you're a big star.

So most guys would rather just play basketball, or football and make just as much money as a top boxer, without having to take the physical punishment to boot.

[ßringer]

I'm hoping my boy "Fast" Eddie Chambers can help put Heavyweight boxing back in the mainstream a bit here in America. Or Chris Arreola, or damn near any other up and coming American Heavyweight. But I doubt they can ever achieve that Tyson like appeal.

Chambers is no killer. He's a craftsman.

And Arreola will get TKO'd long before the mainstream even hears about him.

[StarshipTrooper]

The K brothers are not the best movers and shakers in the world, but they must have something going on to dominate like they do. If you are that big maybe u automatically look slow and clumsy. The real problem is they havnt been properly tested and challenged. They would either then be exposed / would have to adapt and improve in a rematch or be shown to be great heavies.

They do indeed have something going for them: They're fighting in the worst Heavyweight era in recent memory. In a decent era Vitali (not Wlad) may be a top contender but not a dominant champion. Wlad would be lucky to crack the top ten.

Poet

[hammerhiem]

he has the skills but doesn't have the opponents.

And since opponents make you ATG he can't.