Can a Klitschko still be an ATG?

[Norton]

Both of brothers can be ATG. Wladimir is pretty similar to Lennox Lewis in in his style (because of Stewart's influence I think).
As for Vitali - hi is already ATG cos nobody really beat him (Lennox even prefer to retire rather to give rematch to Vitali - Lewis seemed scared). Vitali has a big heart, strong punch, outstanding phisical parameters and intelligence that is above average. I don't see how any champion from the past can deal with him if only by speed and light punches but this is for lightweighters, not heavys.

[NakiFan]

No they are rubbish

[Chase8400]

Being an exciting fighter is not a quality, for the most part. If people think the brothers are boring, then it's because they're boring to them. It's an opinion. You can't just say "you guys are dumb if you think they're boring", it doesn't make much sense.

You think they're exciting, so they're exciting, to you.

I said nothing even close to that. The fact that Vitali is undefeated in terms of being actually beaten at a fights end is quality plentiful.

Fun fact: Did you know? Lennox Lewis had never been losing at the time one of his fights came to an end? Meaning he had never been outboxed prior to facing Klitschko. Being that Lewis is considered an ATG and Vitali was beating him 2 to 1, where does that leave Vitali? Think about it.

And the being an exciting fighter not being a quality statement was borderline idiocracy.

[BattlingNelson]

I said nothing even close to that. The fact that Vitali is undefeated in terms of being actually beaten at a fights end is quality plentiful.

Fun fact: Did you know? Lennox Lewis had never been losing at the time one of his fights came to an end? Meaning he had never been outboxed prior to facing Klitschko. Being that Lewis is considered an ATG and Vitali was beating him 2 to 1, where does that leave Vitali? Think about it.

And the being an exciting fighter not being a quality statement was borderline idiocracy.

According to the rules of boxing Vitali lost. It is what it is.

[Chase8400]

was Tye Fields a exciting fighter he had 37 ko and 41 wins imo what make it exciting is not that you get the ko but how you get like ik a fighter just jab jab jab jab for ten round and wears the other fighter down then gets the ko imo that not very exciting.

tyson was a exciting fighter because as soon as the bell ring he trying to get the ko where as wlad like to wear a fighter down then try to get the ko imo which make the fight boring at times

Okay, fair enough but where did that get both fighters?

Tyson became a joke as soon as he lost his steam. I see Wladimir pacing himself as a skill. He waits until his opponent is defenseless and ends the show. He is masterful to say the least. If some find it boring, I can understand it but that's not the whole story. Do you remember a little known title fight between Wladimir and Ray Austin? Wladimir literally beat him without throwing a right handed punch.....literally. He ended matters in the second round with 6 straight left hooks. Guess what happened? He was burned at the stake for ending the fight too fast yet people say he needs to be more exciting. It's beyond me what people are thinking.

How is Wladimir to win over the public? There is no pleasing everybody sometimes.

[Chase8400]

According to the rules of boxing Vitali lost. It is what it is.

Lennox's gameplan before the fight was not to come in and win on cuts. Sure he won on paper, but everyone knows who the real victor was. The crowd at the fight and the public watching at home were the real judges. They saw Lennox Lewis get beat up on and refuse to grant a rematch when he realized how bad Vitali wanted it. He knew he was losing and got lucky by winning on cuts. It was a paper win, simple as that.

[BattlingNelson]

Lennox's gameplan before the fight was not to come in and win on cuts. Sure he won on paper, but everyone knows who the real victor was. The crowd at the fight and the public watching at home were the real judges. They saw Lennox Lewis get beat up on and refuse to grant a rematch when he realized how bad Vitali wanted it. He knew he was losing and got lucky by winning on cuts. It was a paper win, simple as that.

Given the controversy there's no question that the right thing for Lennox to do was to give a rematch. Just like Joe Louis did after he escaped Joe Walcott's challenge.

But Lennox won the fight. Rules are rules.

[Jone2ts]

Look there good fighters at best, there not entertaining or exciting. They aren't interesting people there just big german guys that win in a way that only there true fans can enjoy. They do not have that thing a Heavy Weight Champion should have to make them a superstar and an icon...There effective fighters that win more than they lose. But when I think all time great Heavy Weight Champion I think of the stars the larger than life figures that did more than just hold a belt.

BTW Lewis won the fight, if Vitali wanted it so bad he should have been more aggressive and tried to force the action more, instead he got careless and tired and was opened up by a clean legal shot and was torn apart and the doctor and ref stopped the fight not Lewis himself, people act like Lewis personally dq'd Vitaili or something...Lewis won bottom line he landed a devastating shot and it hurt Vitali so bad that the fight had to be stopped. Call it what you want but Lewis won that fight by landing harder cleaner punches. The loss to Lewis takes away from Vitali being that Lewis was past it already and was behind on the card and still had the champion heart to land the punch he needed to win, Vitali was outclassed outsmarted and beaten.

[The Hammer]

According to the rules of boxing Vitali lost. It is what it is.

Perhaps, but I've never seen cuts like that caused by punches...

Are they certain a punch caused the eye cut? If so, they should have checked Lennox's gloves.

I remember Lennox twisted his glove on Vitali's cheek causing the other cut. And Lewis was hitting repeatedly while holding Vitali's arm, and the ****** ref never said anything.

[Klitschko2011]

Look there good fighters at best, there not entertaining or exciting. They aren't interesting people there just big german guysthat win in a way that only there true fans can enjoy. They do not have that thing a Heavy Weight Champion should have to make them a superstar and an icon...There effective fighters that win more than they lose. But when I think all time great Heavy Weight Champion I think of the stars the larger than life figures that did more than just hold a belt.

BTW Lewis won the fight, if Vitali wanted it so bad he should have been more aggressive and tried to force the action more, instead he got careless and tired and was opened up by a clean legal shot and was torn apart and the doctor and ref stopped the fight not Lewis himself, people act like Lewis personally dq'd Vitaili or something...Lewis won bottom line he landed a devastating shot and it hurt Vitali so bad that the fight had to be stopped. Call it what you want but Lewis won that fight by landing harder cleaner punches.

I stopped reading when you called the Klitschko brothers "big german guys"

They're UKRAINIAN you dumb ****