Who is Higher All Time Great? Pac or Floyd

[nujabes77]

Were still talking about Diego vs. Pac?

If so, yeah, I can see Pac giving Diego trouble, but remember, it's Diego Corrales. The guy keeps coming and coming and if he hits Pac, which he will, it won't be good. One punch can knock the fighter out of the fight. Even Freitas was out-boxing him until he got tired from continuely moving...then Chico pounded him.

no, pac and castillo, was discussing with some other dude


diaz and oscar looked bad because of pacquiao, you would see them the way they are now if they hadn't gotten the beating from the peaking pacquiao. them looking that way is marity because of pacman

[BennyST]

I thought you cried like a B?tch
You're a delusional Floyd nuthugger fan.
. You're delusional Floyd fan.
You have no basis at all. Your basis is your ******ity.

That was great, very hilarious. hehehe...aaaah dear, this is getting a bit crazy.

...and on that note.....at least I got a laugh out of that post.



Have fun B.Leonard! I'm out of here, so, until next time.

[Benny Leonard]

no, pac and castillo, was discussing with some other dude


diaz and oscar looked bad because of pacquiao, you would see them the way they are now if they hadn't gotten the beating from the peaking pacquiao. them looking that way is marity because of pacman

Diaz isn't that great...but Pac did kick his ass.

Oscar: SHOT. Talk this over with Freddie. I'm the one who posted that Freddie should keep his mouth shut about what he is saying about Oscar because it will come back to haunt him after the fight. Now, I'm actually glad because at least Freddie was honest. And then Freddie discredited Pac even more when he discussed the weight problem with Oscar after the fight while bringing up examples of other fighters that showed up flat/weigh-drained for the fight.

This wasn't a Prime Oscar at 147...hope you know that...as well as the last time Oscar fought there was about 7 years ago; he moved up for a reason.

[Benny Leonard]

That was great, very hilarious. hehehe...aaaah dear, this is getting a bit crazy.

...and on that note.....at least I got a laugh out of that post.



Have fun B.Leonard! I'm out of here, so, until next time.

I was just talking about how funny these posts are and what fun it is if you don't let yourself go crazy.

[Benny Leonard]

No, that was before he won a title. I meant his record since he won a title, he had ...etc etc.

Ah...like it matters anyway to some of these posters. Pac never lost and was never knocked out in their mind

[nujabes77]

What do you mean the 'peaking Pac'? You mean he suddenly got defensively brilliant overnight after fighting Marquez? No, he just looked ten times better against really slow guys that stand in front and couldn't get off. It's not hard when you're a lot faster. He got hit a lot against Marquez a few months before, but wait, let me guess....he wasn't peaking then right?




Wait until he fights another guy that is good. He gets hit, always has, always will. That won't change, he is an aggressive fighter that comes at you and against a good fighter that means he will get hit.

pacquiao is seen by fans as jab jab straight kinda guy and fail to notice the change. watch the diaz and de la hoya fight again and compare it to his matches before. the leap of improvement is apparent and made his opponents look like d class fighters. this has something to do with the moving up in weight and gaining experience from the three mexican legends

even the hbo team stressed this matter after the fight with diaz. i consider this to be his peaking point

[Benny Leonard]

Why are you basing it as a 140 fight? I thought you cried like a B?tch when Roach wants a catchweight of 143. You're a delusional Floyd nuthugger fan. If the Fight was at 140 then Floyd should have moved down to fight at Hatton's belt.. You're delusional Floyd fan. The fact is Floyd defended his 147 belt. Collazo already beat him way before Floyd did. You're making yourself a clown. Did Mayweather cut down to 140 to fight Hatton? You have no basis at all. Your basis is your ******ity.

Ah, what didn't you understand with my other posts?

Floyd asked for the fight, TWICE, and was refused, TWICE at 140. Hatton had his chance, TWICE, to make the fight at 140. So Floyd kept on moving up to get to Oscar.

The fight was at 147 because fighters usually don't like to move back down; plus, in this case, Floyd had the belt at 147 so why fight for a smaller belt at 140? And, it makes Floyd the Champ going into the fight.

Like I said, there was no point in cutting weight since both fighters, by fight time, would not have been 140 anyway. They would have just showed up at the same weight they did for their 147 pound fight.

[nujabes77]

Diaz isn't that great...but Pac did kick his ass.

Oscar: SHOT. Talk this over with Freddie. I'm the one who posted that Freddie should keep his mouth shut about what he is saying about Oscar because it will come back to haunt him after the fight. Now, I'm actually glad because at least Freddie was honest. And then Freddie discredited Pac even more when he discussed the weight problem with Oscar after the fight while bringing up examples of other fighters that showed up flat/weigh-drained for the fight.

This wasn't a Prime Oscar at 147...hope you know that...as well as the last time Oscar fought there was about 7 years ago; he moved up for a reason.

diaz was 34-0 coming in fight nightand is a great boxer, you may say he fought 34 bums but what would that say about boxing?

prime oscar at 140-147 would still lose to pacman, guy has ordeals with speed/soutpaw and out-fighters imho

[Benny Leonard]

pacquiao is seen by fans as jab jab straight kinda guy and fail to notice the change. watch the diaz and de la hoya fight again and compare it to his matches before. the leap of improvement is apparent and made his opponents look like d class fighters. this has something to do with the moving up in weight and gaining experience from the three mexican legends

even the hbo team stressed this matter after the fight with diaz. i consider this to be his peaking point

Roach had Pac using his right-hook for a bit of time now as well as the uppercut.

Diaz isn't an "A" class fighter and Oscar was dead.

When you have an "A" class fighter in front of you (that is alive) it looks different.

If JMM is still on top of his game and gets another crack at Pac; we will see if you are right. Maybe you are; maybe you aren't.

[Benny Leonard]

diaz was 34-0 coming in fight nightand is a great boxer, you may say he fought 34 bums but what would that say about boxing?

prime oscar at 140-147 would still lose to pacman, guy has ordeals with speed/soutpaw and out-fighters imho

Diaz isn't a "great" boxer. Great was what Morales used to be back in the day.

Great is what Duran was a lightweight.

Actually, Freddie basically admitted that he wouldn't put Manny in there with a Prime Oscar...which is why he took the fight.