Is Calzaghe the Greatest of All Time?

[super_joe]

calzaghe the best ? hell yeah . never defeated
many tried all failed ..

True, very true!!

[Dan...]

How is that an absurdly angry post?

He just said that The Ring, a respected authority on boxing knowledge has him at #3... and that is only gaging him against fighters who are currently fighting.

So people like Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Tommy Hearns, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Harry Greb, Jou Loius and Muhammad Ali are not included in that criteria that has him back at #3.

I would think that point is valid to the point that it deserves more of a response than... HATER! YOU HATE THE BRITISH!

Dwiens consistently and methodically owns ppl more consistently than anyone else on this forum.

[Benny Leonard]

"Show me a fighter whose undefeated and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody." --Whitey Bimstein, legendary boxing trainer.


Interesting take on Marciano by Monte Cox

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/rocky.html


Not saying I agree with everything he says about Marciano or any of the other fighters he writes about...but interesting nonetheless.






I wonder if this applies to Floyd as well?

[Wiley Hyena]

"Show me a fighter whose undefeated and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody." --Whitey Bimstein, legendary boxing trainer.


Interesting take on Marciano by Monte Cox

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/rocky.html


Not saying I agree with everything he says about Marciano or any of the other fighters he writes about...but interesting nonetheless.






I wonder if this applies to Floyd as well?

I don't understand why Marciano iis disrespected. All he did was KO everybody.

[Dan...]

I don't understand why Marciano iis disrespected. All he did was KO everybody.

I don't think he should be disrespected but it is important to acknowledge that his level of competition was poor.

[RayLeonard82]

If he fights and beats Chad Dawson and retired undefeated i think you can make a case for him being top 10 of all time.

[Dan...]

If he fights and beats Chad Dawson and retired undefeated i think you can make a case for him being top 10 of all time.

That is pretty crazy talk considering the great fighters of the past. If you can't name 10 fighters that rate considerably higher than Joe on an all time p4p basis then you have some problems. Regardless of whether he beats Dawson or not.

[Wiley Hyena]

That is pretty crazy talk considering the great fighters of the past. If you can't name 10 fighters that rate considerably higher than Joe on an all time p4p basis then you have some problems. Regardless of whether he beats Dawson or not.

Then, there's nothing Calzaghe can do to earn your respect. At some point the fighter's record has to come into play. An undefeated championship streak like Calzaghe's goes into the history books, whether you like him or not. Calzaghe equates with Marciano in alot of ways.

[Dan...]

Then, there's nothing Calzaghe can do to earn your respect. At some point the fighter's record has to come into play. An undefeated championship streak like Calzaghe's goes into the history books, whether you like him or not. Calzaghe equates with Marciano in alot of ways.

You are right, Calzaghe does equate with Marciano in a lot of ways.

When did I say he hasn't earned my respect? Seriously dude you need to stop misinterpreting everything I say.

All I said was Calzaghe is not close to the top 10 greatest fighters in the history of the sport. 99% of members on this site would agree with me.

[Pullcounter]

If he fights and beats Chad Dawson and retired undefeated i think you can make a case for him being top 10 of all time.

i don't think beating dawson would make him top 10 ATG... but going up to cruiser and beating haye might, since haye is the undisputed cruiser... but also going up to HW and whupping one of the klits would definitely put him in to top 10 ATG imho.