Is Calzaghe the Greatest of All Time?

[Dan...]

There's a case to be made for either boxer in a quality match up. But, it's a little hypocritical to say RJJ would destroy Joe, and then after he lost to say that RJJ was just a washed up old man.

I picked Joe to win the fight by UD decision, he did.

I pick Jones by a semi-wide UD in a prime for prime match-up, he would.

I think the percentage split on the last poll on a prime matchup between them was about 83-17. I think that is a reasonably accurate representation of the relative chances of the two fighters.

[Wiley Hyena]

No I didn't I said Roy would lose since this fight was signed. I've been saying Roy was shot on here since 04.

Try again.

A LOT of people said Floyd was ducking Hatton until he fought him. So how does that not make sense again?

Idiot.

Hey idiot. I never said Mayweather dodged Hatton. In fact, if you go back and actually read what I wrote you'll find that I initially said Mayweather would win the fight. I changed my mind after the fight was made.

[Wiley Hyena]

I picked Joe to win the fight by UD decision, he did.

I pick Jones by a semi-wide UD in a prime for prime match-up, he would.

I think the percentage split on the last poll on a prime matchup between them was about 83-17. I think that is a reasonably accurate representation of the relative chances of the two fighters.

Maybe. Maybe not. But, I can argue that 17%. Calzaghe always surprises.

[Wiley Hyena]

That is not defense, its reflexes. He sees punches very well.

Edit: As for the threadstarter's question- I don't really know what the objective of the question is, but no. Just... no.

Reflexes and vision all add up when talking about Calzaghe's defense.

[kenso]

definitely not, he is not even #1 p4p right now.

[Flawless 2]

Eubank was weight drained
Lacy best win was over (insert no name fighter)
Kessler was a good win, yet til to this day he is unproven
Hopkins he has a case he won that fight and people agree
RJJ was shot

[Wiley Hyena]

definitely not, he is not even #1 p4p right now.

I set up this thread simply to give the Pros and Cons of an admittedly controversial proposition. It's interesting that the response of Calzaghe's detractors are, for the most part, enraged to the point of hatred. What's up with all that? Is it the mere fact that he's British??

[Fox McCloud]

I set up this thread simply to give the Pros and Cons of an admittedly controversial proposition. It's interesting that the response of Calzaghe's detractors are, for the most part, enraged to the point of hatred. What's up with all that? Is it the mere fact that he's British??

How is that an absurdly angry post?

He just said that The Ring, a respected authority on boxing knowledge has him at #3... and that is only gaging him against fighters who are currently fighting.

So people like Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Tommy Hearns, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Harry Greb, Jou Loius and Muhammad Ali are not included in that criteria that has him back at #3.

I would think that point is valid to the point that it deserves more of a response than... HATER! YOU HATE THE BRITISH!

[Wiley Hyena]

How is that an absurdly angry post?

He just said that The Ring, a respected authority on boxing knowledge has him at #3... and that is only gaging him against fighters who are currently fighting.

So people like Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Tommy Hearns, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Harry Greb, Jou Loius and Muhammad Ali are not included in that criteria that has him back at #3.

I would think that point is valid to the point that it deserves more of a response than... HATER! YOU HATE THE BRITISH!

I was talking about the majority of responses from Calzaghe detractors in this thread. Just wondering why all the vitriol.

[Wiley Hyena]

Eubank was weight drained
Lacy best win was over (insert no name fighter)
Kessler was a good win, yet til to this day he is unproven
Hopkins he has a case he won that fight and people agree
RJJ was shot

Excuses. Excuses are like *&$holes. Everybody's got one.