If Floyd moved up to super-middleweight

[Vladimir303]

lol...

the thread starter is a complete moron.

and anyone that agree's with him is a complete and utter moron.

fellas, ask yourselves....how BAD would ricky hatton get ****ed up by zag? Or Carlos Baldomir? Or even Oscar Delahoya?

Answer: Extremely, extremely bad.

Floyd aint got fook all on Zag.

You can throw insults all you want.

Btw, that's the worst attempt at trying to make a point ever. So now you're gonna compare what Joe would do to other welterweights compared to what Floyd did.

The Big unbeatable prime George Foreman was knocking around guys like Joe Frazier and Ken Norton while Ali went life and death with both of them yet did that make any difference when Ali fought Foreman as some thought????

No the skills paid the bills and stylistically Foreman couldn't get to Ali like he did to Frazier and Norton because Ali was a much better defensive fighter.

That's a bad post from you and you had to be set straight. Don't even comeback with the "How dare you compare Ali to Floyd" nonsense.

[warp1432]

It'd be like Oscar going up to Middleweight. He was way to out of their size.

Floyd maybe could compete at Middlweight, but no way at Super middle.

edit: Also Floyd walking around at 159 (which is suprising to me. I thought he never got that high.) doesn't mean he should fight at Super middle. It'd be like saying Ricky Hatton should fight at crusierweight.

Or Joe Calzaghe at Crusierweight since that's a better example beecause Calzaghe is still in physical shape.

[Vladimir303]

It'd be like Oscar going up to Middleweight. He was way to out of their size.

Floyd maybe could compete at Middlweight, but no way at Super middle.

edit: Also Floyd walking around at 159 (which is suprising to me. I thought he never got that high.) doesn't mean he should fight at Super middle. It'd be like saying Ricky Hatton should fight at crusierweight.

Or Joe Calzaghe at Crusierweight since that's a better example beecause Calzaghe is still in physical shape.

One Word: Skills

Hatton couldn't do it and Joe couldn't do much in his career above super-middle.

Yet RJJ was at super-middle and even went on to win a heavyweight title. James Toney at 5'9 went on to beat alot of decent heavyweights and was competitive against a natural HW in Peter - who gave Wlad Klitschko - the best current HW all he could handle 2 fights before that.

I'm just sayin.

And Joe's skills haven't impressed me to the point where I think to myself " oh no, Floyd doesn't have a shot at beating him, no way". Far from it.

[RodBarker]

I didnt go through the thread but I think the notion of Floyd at this weight with any decent fighter is ridiculous , Floyd would look like Homer Simpson at 160+ weight and lose all his qualities that make him great , the key is decent fighter , he could beat a dud heavyweight so the point is only relevant to the comp , welter is his limit against the best and he has to be careful who he fights there because its not his best weight , he is really a jnr welter and a great one at that .

[Vladimir303]

It'd be like Oscar going up to Middleweight. He was way to out of their size.

Floyd maybe could compete at Middlweight, but no way at Super middle.

edit: Also Floyd walking around at 159 (which is suprising to me. I thought he never got that high.) doesn't mean he should fight at Super middle. It'd be like saying Ricky Hatton should fight at crusierweight.

Or Joe Calzaghe at Crusierweight since that's a better example beecause Calzaghe is still in physical shape.

One Word: Skills

Hatton couldn't do it and Joe couldn't do much in his career above super-middle.

Yet RJJ was at super-middle and even went on to win a heavyweight title. James Toney at 5'9 went on to beat alot of decent heavyweights and was competitive against a natural HW in Peter - who gave Wlad Klitschko - the best current HW all he could handle 2 fights before that.

I'm just sayin.

And Joe's skills haven't impressed me to the point where I think to myself " oh no, Floyd doesn't have a shot at beating him, no way". Far from it.

[warp1432]

Yeah that's true, but Mayweather wouldn't risk it imo. It wouldn't draw as much money as a Cotto or a second De La Hoya fight. Also Floyd has respect for Joe and so I don't think he would even try it.

And Joe's skills haven't impressed me to the point where I think to myself " oh no, Floyd doesn't have a shot at beating him, no way". Far from it

Well still 9-3? Floyd could do the best he could against Calzaghe and he still wouldn't win 9-3.

Toney and Jones went on to win HW titles, but they didn't start their professional career at 130 either. Mayweather is way to small for Super middle.

[tyson]

Do you box yourself, Vladimir?

The easy answer is that Floyd wouldn't beat Calzaghe.

At a catch weight of 162, he could. Not because he would be very effective at that weight, but because Calzaghe had to cut off his legs to make that weight.

You need to take into consideration that Floyd would struggle to reach up to 162. While any person over middleweight would struggle to get down there.

The actual size difference would be huge.

The difference in power would be so dramatic it would even be more of a difference than Floyd's advantage in speed would be.

I'd say he has a 50-50 chance.

Either he wins... Or he doesn't.

[OhNo]

Do you box yourself, Vladimir?

The easy answer is that Floyd wouldn't beat Calzaghe.

At a catch weight of 162, he could. Not because he would be very effective at that weight, but because Calzaghe had to cut off his legs to make that weight.

You need to take into consideration that Floyd would struggle to reach up to 162. While any person over middleweight would struggle to get down there.

The actual size difference would be huge.

The difference in power would be so dramatic it would even be more of a difference than Floyd's advantage in speed would be.

I'd say he has a 50-50 chance.

Either he wins... Or he doesn't.

A 50/50 chance.

But the probability of him WINNING is close to 1%.

[Vladimir303]

Do you box yourself, Vladimir?

The easy answer is that Floyd wouldn't beat Calzaghe.

At a catch weight of 162, he could. Not because he would be very effective at that weight, but because Calzaghe had to cut off his legs to make that weight.

You need to take into consideration that Floyd would struggle to reach up to 162. While any person over middleweight would struggle to get down there.

The actual size difference would be huge.

The difference in power would be so dramatic it would even be more of a difference than Floyd's advantage in speed would be.

I'd say he has a 50-50 chance.

Either he wins... Or he doesn't.

Floyd was 159lbs walking around during his time at wrestling.

[supermandathoe]

Floyd would get beat by Cal at 168, it would look like a man facing a little boy, are you serious? Ok OK look at it this way, ODH vs Bernard Hopkins right? You remember how tubby Oscar looked and how much bigger Nard was than Oscar? Floyd is even smaller than ODH and Calzaghe is pretty much as big as Bhop, it is MUCH too big of a difference in body mass.