If Roy Jones Jr Never Left 168.....

[Ryn0]

honestly i think calzaghe would've giver Roy the fight of his life.
hardest fight hes ever had bar the Tarver fights where he was drained. I think Roy might lose it because he has to kill himself to get down to 168 thats why he moved up to 175 and stayed.

[Degsy]

when you take into account a guy who weight 198... 2% body fat.... having to make 175 8 months later... and trying lose it in an 8 week trainnig camp... i mean the ONLY way to do that is dehydration.. running etc etc... and theres just no way a human body can take the same resistance that it did before that dehydration... and i think at 35... your body just doesnt react to a change like that... like i said no excuses, he got knocked out theres no denying it... but dont you find it SOME WHAT odd.. he DID take heavyweight right hands... but then gets knocked out cold from a guy that came from middleweight? i mean that does seem a little.. like wtf?? thats the only point im tryin to make..

He was never the same was he. If you had to plot some mythical scale of performance on a graph Red Line for Roy and Blue Line for Joe, Roy's line would peak higher, but come down quicker than Joe's. Too much time has been spent by each side dissing the other guy (not you though) instead of feeling robbed that we weren't given, say a three fight rubber, that would have pissed on both of their resumes for sheer entertainment. They would have brought the best out of each other - they could both take punishment at 168 (pre Roy's move up) so they would have probably been UDs - two for Roy, one for Joe? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but anyone arguing that they would be walkovers either way is deluded.

[RichCCFC]

In Joe's big fights he becomes a super man. I agree that Roy naturally has more talent than Joe, but he had naturally more talent than anyone in the past 30 years. I still however think Joe is the better boxer between the two and although Roy seemed to be very consistant in fights with contenders and against champions when Joe fights his best there really isn't much of a difference between the two as some people think. I'll put this to you. Think of Joe against the 3 best people he has fought (Eubank, Lacy and Kessler) and forget about the rest where he had some poor performances (Bika comes to mind) now try and think of a fighter who can dominate him. You can't... If they fought in their primes it could go either way but neither would get dominated and it would most likely go the distance.

Calzaghe gains freakish power in his big fights and his conditioning is absolutely superp not to mention his granite chin. If he looks bad against Hopkins he wont go down in my estimation and it will be purely because of Hopkins not coming to fight or using dirty tacticts if Joe was to lose or win narrowly.

[robjr]

In Joe's big fights he becomes a super man. I agree that Roy naturally has more talent than Joe, but he had naturally more talent than anyone in the past 30 years. I still however think Joe is the better boxer between the two and although Roy seemed to be very consistant in fights with contenders and against champions when Joe fights his best there really isn't much of a difference between the two as some people think. I'll put this to you. Think of Joe against the 3 best people he has fought (Eubank, Lacy and Kessler) and forget about the rest where he had some poor performances (Bika comes to mind) now try and think of a fighter who can dominate him. You can't... If they fought in their primes it could go either way but neither would get dominated and it would most likely go the distance.

Calzaghe gains freakish power in his big fights and his conditioning is absolutely superp not to mention his granite chin. If he looks bad against Hopkins he wont go down in my estimation and it will be purely because of Hopkins not coming to fight or using dirty tacticts if Joe was to lose or win narrowly.

^^^^
dellusional..

[RichCCFC]

86-9-1 34KO

Me delusional?

[CardioMonster]

LOL YEAH!

Anyone who says melting off 25 pounds of muscle is taxing to the body is a ******!

lol except that he had already lost the weight and beaten Tarver the first time, he got KTFO afterward, learn some history fool.

[beez721]

^^^^
dellusional..

whats delusional about it? it looks right on cue to me

[CardioMonster]

anyone who thinks Roy lost 25lbs of muscle after the Ruiz fight needs to learn something about human physiology.

[beez721]

lol except that he had already lost the weight and beaten Tarver the first time, he got KTFO afterward, learn some history fool.

questionably beat tarver the first time. I dont buy the excuses of him losing weight having anything to do with his china chin. he just happened to lose a fraction of his speed and it was enough for his opponents to finally be able to catch him with clean shots which they couldnt do earlier in his career

[CardioMonster]

and the quality of his opponents went up. Tarver was the first guy he fought in about 8 years who presented a threat (Ruiz aside, who was a terrible heavyweight in my eyes)