If Roy Jones Jr Never Left 168.....

[Burning Desire]

Calzaghe would beat any version of Jones. Joe has the speed to test the weak jaw of Jones, even in his "prime."

Calzaghe by KO in nine.

Jones took flush punches off a guy who outweighed him by over 35+ pounds. So i don't think Jones had a weak chin in his prime, its just when he dropped down in weight so fast that effected his punch resistance. No offense but how many of Jones fights have you actually seen ?? Jones was leagues ahead of Calzaghe talent wise.

[THE REED]

Jones took flush punches off a guy who outweighed him by over 35+ pounds. So i don't think Jones had a weak chin in his prime, its just when he dropped down in weight so fast that effected his punch resistance. No offense but how many of Jones fights have you actually seen ?? Jones was leagues ahead of Calzaghe talent wise.

its about time somone other than me actually realized that

[Dynamite Kid]

Sorry but prime for prime this is no contest, people have got short memories and forget how many clean right hands. Calzaghe took off only goodish fighters like Woodhall, Reid, even the British commentators said during Woodhall fight that he would not be able to get hit with that many right hands against someone like Jones. And i really don't think Calzaghe's Southpaw stance would trouble Jones either, Jones has fought many southpaws and wiped them all out with ease, one of Jones best punches the straight right hand lead is one of Calzaghe's biggest weakness. He was caught over and over with that punch against Reid, and if Jones would of hit Calzaghe with even half the straight right hands Reid did, Calzaghe would of been KO no doubt in my mind, plus prime Jones is so much quicker than Calzaghe, i know people may disagree but prime for prime i don't see Calzaghe lasting the distance against Jones especially at 168.

that is a good post i can see where your coming from & that Version of Joe v RJJ would have been beaten no doubt

however Joe is probably in his prime now if u were to take this Calzaghe & put him in thier with a prime Roy the outcome of that fight would be harder to predict IMO ,lets get it right Roy did'nt struggle with poor leftys like Richard Hall IMO Roy did'nt like fighting Southpaws

[Burning Desire]

I'm not saying Jones wasn't great, because he was. Calzaghe would be the only fighter with equal hand speed he faced and a work rate that Roy would not be use to. Plus if they fought 5-8 years ago Joe still sat on his punches more than he does now because of his hand injuries.

If Jones wasn't knocked out by Tarver and Johnson I would have this fight a pick 'em. Since Jones was knocked out twice and Calzaghe has shown the ability to rise from being knocked down twice and win convincingly, you have to favor him.

This would have been a good fight and it's a shame it didn't happen. If Jones can beat Tito convincingly I could still see this fight possibly happening if Jones is serious about fighting in Wales as he says he is.

First off Calzaghe would come nowhere even close to Jones hand speed wise. I see Jones throw 40+ combination in one setting in a matter of only a couple of seconds, Jones was much faster than Calzaghe in combination punching and in single shots. Jones was KO by Johnson and Tarver because of dropping down in weight it badly effected his punch resistance. Im sorry but no way in hell Jones has a glass jaw, if he can move up to Heavyweight and take flush punches off a fighter who outweighed him by 35+ pounds. Calzaghe was knocked down by much worse fighters than Tarver and Johnson, aka Byron Mitchell aka Kabary Salem, Calzaghe was also rocked badly numerous times against Robin Reid who isn't a big puncher.

[Dynamite Kid]

First off Calzaghe would come nowhere even close to Jones hand speed wise. I see Jones throw 40+ combination in one setting in a matter of only a couple of seconds, Jones was much faster than Calzaghe in combination punching and in single shots. Jones was KO by Johnson and Tarver because of dropping down in weight it badly effected his punch resistance. Im sorry but no way in hell Jones has a glass jaw, if he can move up to Heavyweight and take flush punches off a fighter who outweighed him by 35+ pounds. Calzaghe was knocked down by much worse fighters than Tarver and Johnson, aka Byron Mitchell aka Kabary Salem, Calzaghe was also rocked badly numerous times against Robin Reid who isn't a big puncher.

i know your not trying to make out RJJ has or had a better Chin than Calzaghe

maybe RJJ Was'nt always packing glass but Zag has a better chin all in all

[THE REED]

i know your not trying to make out RJJ has or had a better Chin than Calzaghe

maybe RJJ Was'nt always packing glass but Zag has a better chin all in all

until zag takes right hands from a 235 pound heavyweight, thats yet to be determined

[Sweet Pea 50]

I'm going to put it in my Steven A. Smith voice...
"ROY JONES JUNAH WOULD HAVE KILLED CALSLAPPY INDA 168..."
As of this minute?
Calzaghe has a test coming up.
Can he pass it? Sure he can.
But prime Zags vs. prime RJJ at 168?
It would all depend on how bad RJJ wanted the fight to go.
At 168, NOBODY could **** around with a prime RJJ.
Sorry, but it is what it is.

[Burning Desire]

i know your not trying to make out RJJ has or had a better Chin than Calzaghe

maybe RJJ Was'nt always packing glass but Zag has a better chin all in all

I never said Jones had a better chin than Calzaghe, all i was saying is that Jones in his prime had a much better chin than people are giving him credit for.

[Dynamite Kid]

until zag takes right hands from a 235 pound heavyweight, thats yet to be determined

Ruiz was'nt a ****er for a start ,however he did stun Roy for split second early on i cant remeber what round it was early in the fight with a right hand

Listen im not saying Roy had a glass jaw what i am saying is Calzghe has never been knocked out Cold by Single shots

[TheGreatA]

Jones laid on the ropes at his own choice it wasn't his opponent forcing him to the ropes it was Jones's choice, and actually why don't you have a look and see how many times Jones opponent's actually land when Jones is on the ropes. And i think your find the only real meaningful punches they land are 1 or 2 body shots they never land a clean shot on Jones's chin. Jones had even less experience than Hopkins did and plus he broke his right hand during the fight, and the only time Hopkins had success was when Jones injured his hand, other than that it was a piece of cake for Jones, and as for 1st Griffin fight that wasn't Jones at his best, he was far too cautious in that fight. But he still was on the verge of KO Griffin and he still floored Griffin in the 7th round as well. But when Jones fought with passion he totally destroyed Griffin so i think its little pointless bringing up 1st Griffin fight, because Jones proved he just had an off night.

It's kind of funny how you brush off the Hopkins and Griffin fights as not being evidence for Roy's bad habits because he wasn't at his best for those fights but then bring up Reid vs Calzaghe where Calzaghe was clearly not at his best either as evidence that Roy Jones would beat him.

Nonetheless, I agree that Roy Jones beats Calzaghe and I've already made my point clear earlier in this thread.

I just brought up some of the bad habits that Roy Jones had in the ring which were exploited by a lesser fighter in Montell Griffin. Roy Jones then exploited Griffin's flaws in their rematch, Griffin's inability to take a good punch.

People here seem to think Calzaghe (or just about everyone) has ZERO chance against 'prime' Roy Jones who in some peoples opinion was completely invincible, I disagree with that.
Roy had his flaws, every fighter has flaws, Roy was able to get away with those flaws because of his athleticism and his smarts but a great fighter could make him pay for it.

When Roy got old, Johnson and Tarver made him pay.