Calzaghe is overrated

[Clegg]

I don't care what anyone says, Kessler hasn't proven his worth. He's overrated.

So you have an opinion and you aren't willing to take into consideration the views of anyone else, even though those people may have more knowledge than yourself about the subject being discussed?

Well done, this is the thread for you!

[MWMerlino]

So you have an opinion and you aren't willing to take into consideration the views of anyone else, even though those people may have more knowledge than yourself about the subject being discussed?

Well done, this is the thread for you!

Dude...get out of here with that ****. I've gone round and round with people on this website, writing paragraphs and pages worth of intelligent argument with other intelligent (and not so) posters. I've come to the realization that the body of evidence I see means nothing to others just as theirs means nothing to me.

That is the origin of my comment.

But since you seem to know so much, engage me. Give me two or three signature Kessler fights you think everyone should watch, something that when you think of Kessler being great, you remember those fights.

Any of them I haven't seen already I'll download and watch objectively.

My main criticism with Kessler is his resume and my strong belief that he ducked Miranda and would rather fight weak mandatories than real challengers.

[Clegg]

Dude...get out of here with that ****. I've gone round and round with people on this website, writing paragraphs and pages worth of intelligent argument with other intelligent (and not so) posters. I've come to the realization that the body of evidence I see means nothing to others just as theirs means nothing to me.

That is the origin of my comment.

But since you seem to know so much, engage me. Give me two or three signature Kessler fights you think everyone should watch, something that when you think of Kessler being great, you remember those fights.

Any of them I haven't seen already I'll download and watch objectively.

My main criticism with Kessler is his resume and my strong belief that he ducked Miranda and would rather fight weak mandatories than real challengers.

I didn't say that Kessler is great, all I did was comment on the fact that you seemed to be saying that you weren't willing to listen to the opinions of others.

I don't think that I know all that much, but I do know that sometimes someone can make an argument that is persuasive enough to change my opinion on something. This can even happen with boxers that I am very familiar with.

Some people are just better at analyzing and identifying certain aspects of boxing than I am...all I'm saying is that it's good to keep an open mind and it sounded like you weren't willing to.

But hey, it was a brief comment, maybe I read too much into it, just the way it seemed, that's all.

[Ryn0]

Calzaghe is way overrated. He has yet to beat an elite boxer. How is he rated in the top 2 or 3 p4p? What has he done? I mean if he is so good, why hasn't he fought a great fighter. Kessler is the best he's fought and Kessler is barely an above average boxer. I'm not saying that Calzaghe is bad, but one of the best p4p? I don't think he belongs in the top 10 even. If he gets into the ring with Hopkins, Pavlik, Taylor, or Wright and beats either one of them, than he belongs, otherwise, he is way too overrated.

You said he needs to get in the ring with Hopkins I think you have a double standard here sir

[MWMerlino]

I didn't say that Kessler is great, all I did was comment on the fact that you seemed to be saying that you weren't willing to listen to the opinions of others.

I don't think that I know all that much, but I do know that sometimes someone can make an argument that is persuasive enough to change my opinion on something. This can even happen with boxers that I am very familiar with.

Some people are just better at analyzing and identifying certain aspects of boxing than I am...all I'm saying is that it's good to keep an open mind and it sounded like you weren't willing to.

But hey, it was a brief comment, maybe I read too much into it, just the way it seemed, that's all.

Its cool. I've had a hard time around here lately for expressing my views honestly about Kessler. I do it respectfully and get Red K and people telling me to **** off just because I think Kessler is overrated. And when I try to engage people about it, or bring up how he dodged Miranda, they skip over those details and do not deviate from their original argument.

Its ridiculous.

[Clegg]

Its cool. I've had a hard time around here lately for expressing my views honestly about Kessler. I do it respectfully and get Red K and people telling me to **** off just because I think Kessler is overrated. And when I try to engage people about it, or bring up how he dodged Miranda, they skip over those details and do not deviate from their original argument.

Its ridiculous.

That's ****ty, there are a lot of idiots like that on here unfortunately.

[MWMerlino]

That's ****ty, there are a lot of idiots like that on here unfortunately.

Tunney, Dirt Diggler UK, Jim Jeffries...

[El Dominicano]

Its cool. I've had a hard time around here lately for expressing my views honestly about Kessler. I do it respectfully and get Red K and people telling me to **** off just because I think Kessler is overrated. And when I try to engage people about it, or bring up how he dodged Miranda, they skip over those details and do not deviate from their original argument.

Its ridiculous.

You are who you beat. Kessler is? Because he beat? Jeff Lacy is? Because he beat?

[letsgobrady]

Tunney, Dirt Diggler UK, Jim Jeffries...

dirt diggler is just obsessed with his counrtymen. kessler may be a little overrated career wise but kessler is a very good boxer and in my oppinion will beat everyone from 168 to 160 he just has not yet fought anyone that you want to see him fight like a pavlik,taylor or miranda

[MWMerlino]

dirt diggler is just obsessed with his counrtymen. kessler may be a little overrated career wise but kessler is a very good boxer and in my oppinion will beat everyone from 168 to 160 he just has not yet fought anyone that you want to see him fight like a pavlik,taylor or miranda

Thats my biggest problem with him, I've stated many times he is a great boxer, but lets face it, Kessler fans, Calzaghe fans, lets face it, he ducked Miranda and continues to fight highly overmatched mandatorys.

As El Dominicano said "you are who you beat."