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  • Over rated or not Calzaghe is getting his ass kicked at the end of the week.

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    • Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
      Many people, more from the US, said Lacy and Manfredo were big up and comers, quite solid before they met Joe, and he stunned them and people into realising they're not on his level. It's only since people have dis credited Lacy and Manfredo, thus the recognistion for Joe of those wins.

      Who was the 1990 fight against FRKO, got any info or links for it? Didn't know judges got fired over it, that's mad, wonder what his first loss before that was. Btw, check your inbox mate!!
      Please don't try to defend Manfredo as a solid opponent.

      Calzaghe fighting Manfredo was the identical to Mayweather fighting Gatti. A ****ty fighter who has somehow gotten his name to be big in boxing circles. Those fights were to get exposure and nothing more.

      People who say that Calzaghe deserves no credit for beating Jeff Lacy are out of their ****ing mind however.

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      • Originally posted by bluemax View Post
        So the theory is Calzaghe is over rated because he's undefeated and he.ll outbox Hopkins by a wide decision instead of knocking him out in the first round. Well based on this I guess Calzaghe is one of the best over rated fighters of his era, probally the best super middleweight ever will most likely retire undefeated. Yup sounds over rated to me too!!
        Jajajaja. That was hilarious men. You got it right Calzaghe is undefeted, he is the best super middleweight ever, he will probably retire undefeted and that makes him overrated? Thats a joke! He will whoop hopkns then whoop Pavlik or Taylor and then retire undefeted! Calzaghe late stopagge over Hopkins or a UD

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        • Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
          Yeap! 18 years without losing is very impresive He will bea Hopkins with ease. You will see. People just give Hopkins a chance to win because of his name in America and Calzaghe is comming from europe. But this wont be like the hatton-Mayweather fight. This time the euro guy is the bigger, stronger faster, younger men.
          Who care if Calzaghe went undefeated in the British amateurs. That doesn't mean ****. Andre Ward went undefeated for 9 years in the amateurs. 12 to 21 and he actually won a gold medal, that's successful. Calzaghe did the same thing in the amateurs that he's been doing in the pro's. Dodging the best fighters.

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          • Calzaghe is overated IMO by Brits and US fans alike

            but every fighter is overated

            when u look at Calzaghe domination of good fighters and the Boxing ability he posses u can see how special of a fighter he is ,i would'nt say his Resume stands upto to prove how good he actually is but when u watch him u can see how special he is and u would give him a reallistic chance of beating any of the top ATG ,Middleweights ,Super Middleweights

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            • Originally posted by xfiles View Post
              Who care if Calzaghe went undefeated in the British amateurs. That doesn't mean ****. Andre Ward went undefeated for 9 years in the amateurs. 12 to 21 and he actually won a gold medal, that's successful. Calzaghe did the same thing in the amateurs that he's been doing in the pro's. Dodging the best fighters.
              How calling out RJJ and B-Hop his entire career is dodging the best fighters. He beat eubank, Manfredo, Lacy and kessler. The best fighters available in the division. How thats dodging.? Is not his fault that the division dodn;t have enough talent. And tell me who he have Dodge?

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              • Originally posted by xfiles View Post
                Calzaghe did the same thing in the amateurs that he's been doing in the pro's. Dodging the best fighters.
                Do you understand how amateur boxing works in the UK?

                It doesn't sound like it.

                Do you have any knowledge of JC's amateur career?

                Seems not.

                Who did Calzaghe dodge?

                This is the part where you bring up fighters who weren't in his weight division and weren't interested in fighting him.

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                • Originally posted by Clegg View Post
                  Do you understand how amateur boxing works in the UK?

                  It doesn't sound like it.

                  Do you have any knowledge of JC's amateur career?

                  Seems not.
                  No, he doesn't. It wasn't long ago when he was questioning Joe's amateur career. He shut up when I told him about his achievements, which are extremely good. Winning those 3 ABA's at 3 different weight classes hasn't been done since the 1930's or something.

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                  • Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
                    Please don't try to defend Manfredo as a solid opponent.

                    Calzaghe fighting Manfredo was the identical to Mayweather fighting Gatti. A ****ty fighter who has somehow gotten his name to be big in boxing circles. Those fights were to get exposure and nothing more.

                    People who say that Calzaghe deserves no credit for beating Jeff Lacy are out of their ****ing mind however.
                    I suggest you either re-read my post, I re-consider it's meaning. I clearly put it;

                    "MANY PEOPLE, more from the US, said Lacy and Manfredo were big up and comers, quite solid before they met Joe, and he stunned them and people into realising they're not on his level. It's only since people have dis credited Lacy and Manfredo, thus the recognistion for Joe of those wins."

                    Solid more applied to Lacy, but even so, it is true, that many, perhaps not a majority, but many, said Manfredo was a big fighter, very much up and coming, and had a good shot at beating Calzaghe, including Sugar Ray. It was said vastly more so for Lacy.

                    Joe outclassed both. It was more post those fights, that Joe lost credit for winning those fights, as people now say there weren't so great fighters destined for big things, and instead are fighting each other. Face it, Lacy was supposed to outgun Joe, beat him, as the new Tyson esk yank fighter, he got caned by Joe, then later struggled to beat Manfredo, whom Joe beat even more easily.

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                    • Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
                      Many people, more from the US, said Lacy and Manfredo were big up and comers, quite solid before they met Joe, and he stunned them and people into realising they're not on his level. It's only since people have dis credited Lacy and Manfredo, thus the recognistion for Joe of those wins.

                      Who was the 1990 fight against FRKO, got any info or links for it? Didn't know judges got fired over it, that's mad, wonder what his first loss before that was. Btw, check your inbox mate!!
                      Kris, I forget the name of the guy he lost to in amateurs. All I can remember is it was in Prague. I do have some more information in a documentary but I have quite a few documentaries on Joe so I'd need to root through 'em.

                      Gonna check my PM's now. Cheers.

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