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  • sonofisis
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    #81
    Originally posted by DURAN_IS_GOD
    dont waste your breathe mate.... nobody here seems to understand PROPORTION
    Wtf does proportion matter in overall revenue? This is insane, have any of you taken arithmetic? Seriously? Honest question?


    Example:

    You have 100 tickets available right? Each ticket is $10.

    There are about 30 ticket buyers available in the U.K., while 150 are available in the U.S.


    Out of those 30 in the U.K., 26 purchase tickets. Out of the 150 U.S. fans. The remaining 74 buy tickets.


    74 tickets purchased from U.S. fans = $740
    26 tickets from U.K. fans = $260


    About almost 50% of Americans purchased tickets, while almost 90% purchased from the U.K.

    U.K. fans proportionately bought more tickets. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Please see the figures and figure out for yourself, why it means nothing.


    74 tickets purchased from U.S. fans = $740
    26 tickets from U.K. fans = $260


    ^This doesn't include world-wide sales. So in summary, Floyd generates more money and is a bigger draw! End of story.

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    • Mozza
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      #82
      Originally posted by Easy-E
      The fact that they are watching him becasue he is known as the best proves that he is popular.
      More people will have watched him fight this year than any other fighter in history.
      Well you see that is just not true. You're logic presumes that everyone who watches a boxing match is doing so because they are a fan of one of the fighters but that is not the case. Fans of boxing and other individual sports like tennis will often watch in greater numbers according to the level of the participants which is not necessarily related to popularity.

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        #83
        This **** is about National loyalty and basically nothing else. Americans to be honest don't have National loyalty unless its the Olympics and **** like that.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Unseen
          the thread aint about ppv you fool. it's about the brits going to see the fight. mayweather had like 1 brit vs oscar. so is floyld the draw? nah hes the whore.
          British fans aren't spending the bulk of the money, Americans are! So who cares? The thread is about Mayweather's drawing power. Leonard doesn't mean literally that the U.K. fans are flocking over here to see Mayweather fight. The point is that they're coming so readily and so packed because Hatton is fighting Floyd. At the end of the day though, as indicated, it doesn't matter since they aren't spending the bulk of the money!

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          • Unseen
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            #85
            Originally posted by sonofisis
            I'm not concerned. Overall, Floyd is more infamous world-wide than Ricky is famous. British fans have less to look up to so when a star emerges in such a relatively small country, they are relatively more notable. At the end of the day, just as many people in America probably know who Floyd is as there are people in Britain (at least half). Nobody in America knows Hatton, he's being introduced on 24/7.



            It's not impressive compared to 2 million pay per view sales and an all-time record. When's the last time Ricky sold out in 30 minutes for a fight?
            i'm from britain and no one knows floyld apart from people interested in boxing. perhaps he is a little more know now because of ricky. believe me the average sports fan in the uk would struggle to name floyld from a picture. don't get dilussional and assume flyold is world famous. he aint

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            • VIVA MEXICO!!!
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              #86
              Originally posted by sonofisis
              Wtf does proportion matter in overall revenue? This is insane, have any of you taken arithmetic? Seriously? Honest question?


              Example:

              You have 100 tickets available right? Each ticket is $10.

              There are about 30 ticket buyers available in the U.K., while 150 are available in the U.S.


              Out of those 30 in the U.K., 26 purchase tickets. Out of the 150 U.S. fans. The remaining 74 buy tickets.


              74 tickets purchased from U.S. fans = $740
              26 tickets from U.K. fans = $260


              About almost 50% of Americans purchased tickets, while almost 90% purchased from the U.K.

              U.K. fans proportionately bought more tickets. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Please see the figures and figure out for yourself, why it means nothing.


              74 tickets purchased from U.S. fans = $740
              26 tickets from U.K. fans = $260


              ^This doesn't include world-wide sales. So in summary, Floyd generates more money and is a bigger draw! End of story.
              your a joke. if you count the total number of people that would pay to watch this fight because of hatton compared to floyd it would be like 1000 to 1. mayweather is the most boring fighter in the history of boxing.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Mozza
                Sky broadcast four of them starting with the Tszyu fight, Setanta broadcast the Castillo fight and Sky will be broadcasting the Mayweather fight. I have no idea where Sky publish their PPV numbers so if anyone can find them they are doing better than me.
                If you have no numbers, then why initially reference them? For all I know, he didn't do over 10,000..

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Unseen
                  i'm from britain and no one knows floyld apart from people interested in boxing. perhaps he is a little more know now because of ricky. believe me the average sports fan in the uk would struggle to name floyld from a picture. don't get dilussional and assume flyold is world famous. he aint
                  The same **** applies to Hatton here in America.

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                  • Unseen
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by sonofisis
                    Brodie. If this makes you feel better, go ahead and lean on it, though alone, it doesn't address anything I've pointed out so try and refrain from being so silly.


                    WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?!.. I need numbers, not claims. Claims are worthless without support, just worthless! 2 million pay per view buys vs. no pay per view at all doesn't seem to support that.



                    Reduction. Ok, we shall reduce and be relative then, since no parameters were set.

                    Proportionately, Floyd is more popular in his ethnic "community" than Hatton is in his.

                    Floyd is more infamous and popular in the U.S. than Hatton is.

                    Floyd is more popular/infamous world-wide than Ricky is.



                    While American fans stay at home and pay for millions of dollars in pay per view. Americans being lazy has nothing to do with this. How many Americans flew out to see Ali in south Africa? Is Hatton more popular than Ali?



                    Maybe because he himself is a super-feather weight and he likes a good challenge.



                    No, he's fighting him for whatever reasons he stated. Not attributable to your lack of logic.

                    the last ppv was because of oscar. if floyld didnt fight oscar then he would not reach those ppv numbers. true?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!!
                      your a joke. if you count the total number of people that would pay to watch this fight because of hatton compared to floyd it would be like 1000 to 1. mayweather is the most boring fighter in the history of boxing.
                      VIVA. You make absolutely no sense, as usual. In the U.K., it would probably be bigger odds in favor of Ricky, but in the U.S., no one knows Ricky so this can't be stated. Your hate for Mayweather has nothing to do with me, the facts are there and they clearly show that Mayweather is the overall draw. I don't give a rat's tail about the U.K..

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