Ellerbe: "Fans Coming For Floyd, Not Ricky"

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  • sonofisis
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    #101
    Originally posted by Unseen
    bulk of the money will obviously be american.
    Exactly, and no one here knows Hatton, so do you see the implication?

    if oscar coems to the uk then hatton will have the bulk of the money.
    Most of the ppv will still come from America!

    understand?
    No, because I'm not concerned with ticket seats.

    to me if you read what ellrebe said again it suggests hattons fans aree only going to see floyld.
    Focusing too literally on what Leonard said is a distraction to the fact that Mayweather is the overall draw. I know what Leonard is trying to say nonetheless.

    as someone stated, half of hatton fans would have seen 2 or 3 of floyld fights in total. they are there for hatton. floyld has some of his fans and most of the audience will be american too.
    Most of the audience will be American, most of the ppv buyers will be American, hence, most of the money will come from America. Mayweather is a much bigger pull world-wide and in America than Hatton is. What was the point again?

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    • Mozza
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      #102
      Originally posted by sonofisis
      Disregarding speculation. Please provide numbers if you want to prove that Ricky is a bigger draw than Mayweather.
      I have already said that I don't have the numbers and I don't want to prove anything other than that Mayweather is not popular. So far I have been told that he is popular because he sells PPVs and I am afraid that such evidence is simply not admissible.

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        #103
        Originally posted by Mozza
        I have already said that I don't have the numbers and I don't want to prove anything other than that Mayweather is not popular. So far I have been told that he is popular because he sells PPVs and I am afraid that such evidence is simply not admissible.
        2 million ppvs and nothing below 300,000 before that doesn't indicate pulling power? Nonadmissible to who? Surely not us logical humans. Popular/infamous = pulling power. Does Hatton have more overall pulling power than Mayweather? Yes or no? If yes, where is your evidence, hence, the numbers?

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        • Mike_Dee
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          #104
          the fight is in the US so their would not only be more Mayweather fans, but fans supporting the US. I'm surpirsed the nationalistic theme isn't being "milked to death" on this fight

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          • Unseen
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            #105
            Originally posted by sonofisis
            Exactly, and no one here knows Hatton, so do you see the implication?



            Most of the ppv will still come from America!



            No, because I'm not concerned with ticket seats.



            Focusing too literally on what Leonard said is a distraction to the fact that Mayweather is the overall draw. I know what Leonard is trying to say nonetheless.



            Most of the audience will be American, most of the ppv buyers will be American, hence, most of the money will come from America. Mayweather is a much bigger pull world-wide and in America than Hatton is. What was the point again?

            most of the ppv will be american is debatable. hatton would not draw the amercan public as you said. and oscar fighting an unknown hatton woudl not draw that many american fans. if the fight was in the uk then hatton would generate msot fo the money.

            how many ppv has oscar or floyld had in the uk you wonder? exactly.

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            • C'MONMANG'
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              #106
              Originally posted by sonofisis
              2 million ppvs and nothing below 300,000 before that doesn't indicate pulling power? Nonadmissible to who? Surely not us logical humans. Popular/infamous = pulling power. Does Hatton have more overall pulling power than Mayweather? Yes or no? If yes, where is your evidence, hence, the numbers?
              go to SKY sports and look at his numbers you donkey.

              his whole country tunes in and ACTUALLY goes the fights as well..

              not to mention they travel in the THOUSANDS..to watch him fight over seas..if that isnt enough evidence, then you are clue less

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                #107
                what doese this have to do with anything lol

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Black Jesus
                  and the same with oscar, when he fought trinidad he didint do those numbers, when he fought hopkins he didint do those numbers, when he fought mayorga he didint do those numbers, oscar never did numbers like that until he fought floyd, so while without oscar floyd wouldnt have done those numbers, without floyd oscar wouldnt have done those numbers with anyone neither.

                  Those fights werent promoted/marketed the way Floyd/Oscar was.

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                  • C'MONMANG'
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by deevel79
                    Those fights werent promoted/marketed the way Floyd/Oscar was.
                    exactley..

                    they dont do 24/7 becuase it's fun for them..it's called promoting

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Unseen
                      most of the ppv will be american is debatable.
                      More predictable than debatable. There are more people in America and as stated, Mayweather is the bigger draw. They just spent over 100 million watching him against De La Hoya. It's actually a common theme that Americans buy more pay per view since American companies host most of the events.

                      hatton would not draw the amercan public as you said. and oscar fighting an unknown hatton woudl not draw that many american fans. if the fight was in the uk then hatton would generate msot fo the money.
                      Not true since most of the money outside of arena sales won't come from the U.K. Assuming of course that the event is broadcasted on American TV stations, Oscar is a huge draw.

                      how many ppv has oscar or floyld had in the uk you wonder? exactly.
                      It doesn't matter since there are more people in America than there are in the U.K., hence, more overall fans/ppv buys.


                      Originally posted by c'monmang'
                      go to SKY sports and look at his numbers you donkey.
                      I'll be that donkey. In the meantime, if it is so easily accessible, why don't you post the said numbers and stop procrastinating? I'm not obligated to do any work here, the burden of proof is not on me.

                      his whole country tunes in and ACTUALLY goes the fights as well..
                      Hyperbole. Please be objective and support your claims with verifiable information.

                      not to mention they travel in the THOUSANDS..to watch him fight over seas..if that isnt enough evidence, then you are clue less
                      Evidence for what? That he brings more money to boxing or is a bigger pull than Floyd Mayweather? I see no evidence of the sort. Just a few reactionary and emotional comments from you, but no corresponding figures.

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