Ellerbe: "Fans Coming For Floyd, Not Ricky"

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

proportion is irrelevant to fanbase you idiot.

no its not you thick ****. of course floyd will have more fans he has 5 times the number of people potentially watching him.....

[Easy-E]

wrong, leonard. if the fans are coming from across the pond, rest assured they came for rick and not mayweather.

right now no one has the pull on fans that ricky has on his. ricky is selling this fight, i like mayweather a lot and think he'll win but lets be honest about this facet of the fight.

gatti is father of the boardwalk, hence sell out.

odlh is gawd of PPV's. fantastic numbers.

ricky has a throng of supporters that would go anywhere and purchase anything to will on their man.

floyd's a better fighter in that ring but those guys had class, pull and the backing to make these events what they were, not floyd.

How do you explain the 330k ppv's the most Gatti has ever done in a ppv fight??

Same with Oscar. 3x the amount of people bought Mayweather v DLH than bought Oscars previous fight.

[Easy-E]

no its not you thick ****. of course floyd will have more fans he has 5 times the number of people potentially watching him.....

In the US, fans have Baseball, Football, Basketball, Nascar, all of which are far more popular than boxing.
Still, Floyd has a superior fanbase to Ricky.

And perhaps you were thinking about popularity, rather than fanbase.

[El Jesus]

you have probably watched 3 of hattons fights, throughout his career he has produced fantastic excitement and value for money. yes he holds occassionally but at least he comes to fight unlike floyd who dances around the ring to a chorus of boos from his "massive fanbase"

dude youre not understanding where im coming from, i dont care about his great wins against ****ing vince phillips and ben tackie, im talking about the recent fights that define his career. The tszyu fight is almost unwatchable by american standards, im telling you right now, i know how this country is, excessive clinching in BIG fights is ****ing boring, thats how we think, were spoiled, american audiences want to see action, not 2 or 3 punches and then clinching.

hatton did what he had to do, it was an ugly win, but he did what he felt was best, i dont blame him for doing what he did, as ugly as it was.

i mean floyd is held to the same standard, he fought a good fight against oscar, but fans werent satisfied, they wanted to see toe to toe action, and he was held to that standard and most people saw that fight as being dissapointing. now imagine if mayweather clinched oscar for 11 of the 12 rounds? come on man.

[Mozza]

In the US, fans have Baseball, Football, Basketball, Nascar, all of which are far more popular than boxing.
Still, Floyd has a superior fanbase to Ricky.

And perhaps you were thinking about popularity, rather than fanbase.

The fact is more people are watching Floyd because he is the best boxer on the planet than because of any poularity he has. Therefore Mayweather might be the most watched boxer on the planet but he sure as hell is not the most popular.

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

not once have i said that hattons fanbase is bigger.... of course it isn't but proprtionally his popularity is much bigger and thats with far less exposure.... and in britain we have football, rugby, cricket, golf etc which are all bigger than boxing also.....

[tredh]

the thing is though is that someone like ray leonard fighting hatton, hatton would NEVER have more fans in that arena with someone like leonard, or someone like say meldrick taylor.

mayweather being black factors in somewhat, but i dont like to play race cards unless i have to because its a touchy subject i dont enjoy talking about on here. mayweather being supremely talented, plus arrogant, plus young black and rich doesnt play well to anyone except mostly...you guessed it, black people.

mayweather doesnt have the appealing personality like oscar, taylor and leonard, he doesnt try to hide who or what he is, he isnt pretending to be something he isnt, if youre an *******, just ****ing be one and dont try to play me.


but i wouldnt attribute his lack of popularity mostly on race to be honest.

What you have to understand is Leonard walked around smiling all the time regardless of if he had **** to smile about or not. So in other words he was accepted by white people which means he appealed to a richer fan base. Which is why if he fought Hatton the crowd would be even or in favor of Ray Leonard. Never said I would attribute his lack of popularity mostly to race but his attutide + his race= why alot of people don't like him. I never play race cards because that **** doesn't exsist.
The thing about Oscar is that a lot of Mexicans don't accept Oscar they look at him as a sell out so he appealed to the masses but at the sametime lost the love and respect of a lot of his Mexican people.

[Easy-E]

The fact is more people are watching Floyd because he is the best boxer on the planet than because of any poularity he has. Therefore Mayweather might be the most watched boxer on the planet but he sure as hell is not the most popular.

The fact that they are watching him becasue he is known as the best proves that he is popular.
More people will have watched him fight this year than any other fighter in history.

[El Jesus]

What you have to understand is Leonard walked around smiling all the time regardless of if he had **** to smile about or not. So in other words he was accepted by white people which means he appealed to a richer fan base. Which is why if he fought Hatton the crowd would be even or in favor of Ray Leonard. Never said I would attribute his lack of popularity mostly to race but his attutide + his race= why alot of people don't like him. I never play race cards because that **** doesn't exsist.
The thing about Oscar is that a lot of Mexicans don't accept Oscar they look at him as a sell out so he appealed to the masses but at the sametime lost the love and respect of a lot of his Mexican people.

youre 100 percent right, its the same reason white people loved joe frazier.

the appeal of white people is important because they are the ones who have the most money and are willing to really shell out their support financially, but i agree with what youre saying.

miles davis said that **** about louie armstrong, he said he loved him but the n!gga smiled too damn much for no reason lol.

[Unseen]

Floyd's status is definitely selling the fight. The last few ppvs Floyd was in all went over 300,000 and we know what the last one did. Ricky's never even had a ppv and nobody in the states knows him. Floyd is definitely the draw. 20,000 fans is chump change compared to 2 million pay per views.

the thread aint about ppv you fool. it's about the brits going to see the fight. mayweather had like 1 brit vs oscar. so is floyld the draw? nah hes the whore.