How Come Miguel Cotto Is Never On A "P4P" List?

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  • The Fix
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    #41
    Originally posted by oldgringo
    I think Cotto's problems with being rocked were more a reflection of his draining weight than his actual ability to take a shot on the chin. I know that some fighters drain and have no real problems...so I may be off.

    I mean heyzeus christ though....the man has some SERIOUS recuperative ability. He took some monster shots from Ricardo Torres and just stayed up and let Torres tee off on him. Some of those combinations he took would put other guys to sleep (especially that three punch combo that ended with the uppercut).
    you dont want it with me....

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    • oldgringo
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Fix
      you dont want it with me....
      quiet hoemoe.

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      • The Fix
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        #43
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        quiet hoemoe.
        i will end you....

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        • Mech.
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          #44
          Originally posted by oldgringo
          I think Cotto's problems with being rocked were more a reflection of his draining weight than his actual ability to take a shot on the chin. I know that some fighters drain and have no real problems...so I may be off.

          I mean heyzeus christ though....the man has some SERIOUS recuperative ability. He took some monster shots from Ricardo Torres and just stayed up and let Torres tee off on him. Some of those combinations he took would put other guys to sleep (especially that three punch combo that ended with the uppercut).
          I sitll think its speed,he gets caught with shots he dosent see I guess,Its the only correlation I see between Torres and Corley,cotto fought aggressively in both those fights and left himself open more than he usually does,and his opponents quick hands were able to capitalize.Cotto reaction to getting tagged with a shot he dosent see is just alot worse then most fighters I guess, some guys just get stunned for a couple of seconds,cotto looks like he gets rocked.

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          • psychopath
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            #45
            Originally posted by RunW/Knives
            Early? How in the hell is it "Early".

            Cotto has been a professional for 6 years and a Champion for 3. And he's fought plenty of solid names....just no superstars.

            That doesn't stop people from placing Calzaghe in their top ten.

            There's your answer right in your own post, Cotto needs to fight somebody who is a supertars. Somebody in the P4P list buddy.

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            • Run
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              #46
              Originally posted by psychopath
              There's your answer right in your own post, Cotto needs to fight somebody who is a supertars. Somebody in the P4P list buddy.
              So....I take it you don't have Joe Calzaghe in your top ten P4P?



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              • Easy-E
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                #47
                Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                He's beaten probably as good of opposition as anyone.

                I suppose it's the lack of wins over stars that impresses people who make those lists. I like Hatton, and I do think he should be on or near a top ten list....but outside of his 1 career defining win over Tszyu he's by no means beaten better opposition than Cotto. Over the past three years, Cotto has walked through one tough opponent after another.

                The ridiculous thing is....even if Cotto beats Margarito I'm sure he's still not going to be universally recognized as top ten material. I don't know why.

                Thats clearly untrue, but I see your point.
                The main reason is becuase he never defeated a top p4p fighter like Hatton did.
                I think Cotto deserves to be anywhere from 9-11 IMO.

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                • Sir_Jose
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                  He's beaten probably as good of opposition as anyone.
                  I suppose it's the lack of wins over stars that impresses people who make those lists. I like Hatton, and I do think he should be on or near a top ten list....but outside of his 1 career defining win over Tszyu he's by no means beaten better opposition than Cotto. Over the past three years, Cotto has walked through one tough opponent after another.

                  The ridiculous thing is....even if Cotto beats Margarito I'm sure he's still not going to be universally recognized as top ten material. I don't know why.
                  I stopped reading right there.

                  Just shoot yourself and get it over with.

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                  • abdiel2k3
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                    #49
                    cuz of that "questionable" chin
                    and he really hasnt faced that good of opposition

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                    • Run
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Sir_Jose
                      I stopped reading right there.

                      Just shoot yourself and get it over with.
                      Stick to the lounge and NBA thread, you're out of your element.

                      in 28 fights you can't name a fighter who's faced the kind of opposition he has...outside of a washed up Vargas and other flash in the pan stars and Floyd himself.



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