Prime Ali vs Prime Marciano: Who wins?

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  • Ray Corso
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    #161
    You can't discuss boxing with fanboys!
    No matter what topics are brought up their favorite will succeed.
    The Wlad fanboys can't get 6'6" out of their heads because its the ONLY reality they have, he IS 6'6" congrates to Wlads parents.
    Him having the "best jab" is a joke he doesn't have the best "anything"!
    He would never land solidly against Ali and Ali would hit him at will with any of his shots. Wlad has NO Defence! When he gets hit he "out reaches" with both arms to grab. He doesn't perry then counter, he doesn't slip then counter he doesn't even throw combinations. He is very cautious and the reason for this is his "china chin"!
    He is a C- talent who is defenetly 6'6" and thats that!

    Ali tko's him inside 10rds and Marciano KO's him inside 5 rds.
    He would struggle to hit Marciano, to hit Rocky clean you need to punch with him and Wlad won't do that. If he does he'll be gone in 2rds. ha!
    Ali & Marciano have great chins, Wlad....not so much!
    Ray.

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    • The Old LefHook
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      #162
      Originally posted by Ray Corso
      You can't discuss boxing with fanboys!
      No matter what topics are brought up their favorite will succeed.
      The Wlad fanboys can't get 6'6" out of their heads because its the ONLY reality they have, he IS 6'6" congrates to Wlads parents.
      Him having the "best jab" is a joke he doesn't have the best "anything"!

      Ray.
      I must respectfully disagree, Ray. I think big Vlad has one of the best clutches in boxing history on him.

      His chin ranks too (ranks has several meanings). Though not one of the best, it is still one of the largest ever seen in the sport, and I am not afraid to give it credit for that. Why, you are just an old phony! Admit right now that Vlad has a large chin, or I challenge you to a fisfight in the meridian of your choice, as long as it is my choice too. I come from a long line of show champs. I may as well give you fair warning that, sir, the champs did not stop with my daddy. I know more about fighting than Howard Cosell. My daddy was a cowboy and my momma a tornado. This is way over your head, I know, and simply too deep, too technical for you to understand. Vlad may not have a chin tuck, but he sure can tuck his tail. Too technical, I know, I know. You're a trainer, eh? Well train your attention on this, gramps: large chins that reside high off the ground are technically superior to small ones on stubby necks that have to tuck themselves. You're a trainer (so you say). Then explain to us all the simple and basic reason for this reality. Oh, you can't? That's why you have your finger up your butt and your mind in South America, geezer.

      I will not let you off so easy as to tell you the right answer immediately. If I let you try to riddle out this puzzle (to you a puzzle) maybe you will layoff your nonsencial pestering for a while and give us a rest. Schooling you this way should be one way to shut you up, but no matter how many times I spank you, you keep coming back for more. Now I know what they mean by turning the other cheek. Personally, I don't know how you take the beatings, but you are welcome. Anytime you want to make the thrashings real instead of figurative, I have a lefhook specially reserved for ignorant graybeards who gum up my forum like senseless blatherskites.

      The game has evolved and you are devolving right along side it. The boys in the last twenty years have discovered heretofore unknown techniques for superior boxing. Who'd-a thunk there were techniques that come in powdered form a man could drink? That is one of the secrets of growing a large chin, but I ain't giving you the rest of it, not right now, anyway. Slither away and slather while you puzzle at the deepness of my analyses.

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      • LoadedWraps
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        #163
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        70's Ali would beat Marciano ,no way would either be favorite over Klitchko .....at 6'6 with the better jab ...watching the Norton fights one can see what a stiff jab does to Ali ....Marciano would be a bit easy to figure out as he threw one punch at a time in a stand still position .
        What utter rubbish. Clearly you haven't seen Marciano fight. One punch at a time standing still?

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          #164
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps
          What utter rubbish. Clearly you haven't seen Marciano fight. One punch at a time standing still?
          Actually I do,and have...show me the awesome combos rocky throws?Which fight?you see theres you and me....casual fans who study the actual fights and the real ones who study what they ACTUAULLy do..

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            #165
            Originally posted by juggernaut666

            Actually I do,and have...show me the awesome combos rocky throws?Which fight?you see theres you and me....casual fans who study the actual fights and the real ones who study what they ACTUAULLy do..
            If you go on Utube you can find homages to marciano breaking down his technical skills...expert.

            Here is one to start you off with



            Almost any highlight film will show his combos

            .....expert

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              #166
              Originally posted by billeau2
              If you go on Utube you can find homages to marciano breaking down his technical skills...expert.

              Here is one to start you off with



              Almost any highlight film will show his combos

              .....expert
              And there heis throwing SLOW ,one punch at time ,unless you consider a 2 /3 second pauses in between a same set fast combo....im assuming you do ,if you fight as bad as you reply you must look like a fool.



              I never said anything about his techniques ,once again you are off topic and subject......

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                #167
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                And there heis throwing SLOW ,one punch at time ,unless you consider a 2 /3 second pauses in between a same set fast combo....im assuming you do ,if you fight as bad as you reply you must look like a fool.



                I never said anything about his techniques ,once again you are off topic and subject......
                You said he does not throw combos....there he is throwing combos...It also showed counterpunching....expert! What an imbecile

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                • butterfly1964
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                  #168
                  Ali's movement and tricky angles would be too much for Marciano. Marciano's constant pressure would be nullified for the most part by Ali's reach, durability and rapid-fire combinations. Ali would cut Marciano and the fight would be stopped by the 12th or 13th round.

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                  • LoadedWraps
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964
                    Ali's movement and tricky angles would be too much for Marciano. Marciano's constant pressure would be nullified for the most part by Ali's reach, durability and rapid-fire combinations. Ali would cut Marciano and the fight would be stopped by the 12th or 13th round.
                    Rocky would slip and roll most of those punches and force Ali to fight inside.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                      Rocky would slip and roll most of those punches and force Ali to fight inside.
                      Rocky Marciano was not a defensive master no matter how much you keep trying to pretend he was. Ali would have no problems hitting him.

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