Prime Ali vs Prime Marciano: Who wins?

[LoadedWraps]

You are arguing once again with actual fight footage he was NOT a combo puncher anyone can even watch his fight with old Louis ,he throws ONE punch shots not combos,its not even debatable.He was planter who measured then threw,he was not overly fast which is why he picked ppl apart with ONE shot hard ones to a direct targeted area,he hit over and over.When you stop in motion then throw again that is not combo punching!What an imbecile?

"Joe Louis could take you out with any combination,but Marciano was a ONE punch fighter,he hit harder than Joe" Joe Walcott

Dude...you do realize when Joe Walcott said that, he was referring to one punch KO power, not combination punching or single shots, right?

[juggernaut666]

Dude...you do realize when Joe Walcott said that, he was referring to one punch KO power, not combination punching or single shots, right?

That's why Walcott says hes not a combination puncher that hes a ONE punch fighter,not a one punch k.o artist ..a ONE punch specialist,,any vid of him fighting proves that,i even posted one of a compilation, this section is a bit behind always. I don't get it,why certain posters just have to say something to say something?.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

That's why Walcott says hes not a combination puncher that hes a ONE punch fighter,not a one punch k.o artist ..a ONE punch specialist,,any vid of him fighting proves that,i even posted one of a compilation, this section is a bit behind always. I don't get it,why certain posters just have to say something to say something?.

One punch was all he needed or else he wouldn't have gone undefeated.

[billeau2]

I dont have to put words in your mouth , you CLEARLY challenge me on page 17 and make more ridiculous remarks and further embarrass yourself with the wrong type of video anyway by jumping in once again without knowing what your talking about and now as USUAL denying and changing what i was talking about in the first place .,like bringing up inside fighting etc ,more b.s thats irrelevant to the TYPE /STYLE of puncher he was,your whole stance was trying to tell me he was a combo puncher ,your evidance was non existant but telling me he was CAPABLE of combo punching like its magic...

P.S being relentless would have to include amount of punches thrown ,not just standing there BOTH walked thru punches the differance is Frazier had more PERSISTANT motion and punches,though if you wish to engage a frazier and Marciano debate concerning that i will oblige you!

Yeah I challenged you but did you understand the challenge? Apparently not. You can't even understand that what Walcot said has no bearing....Your just not smart enough to read something as it was intended. Again...My point was that Marciano,like others of the time are well rounded and have man skill sets. you decided this meant that he was a one punch fighter exclusively...

Relentless does indeed include punches yeah and many other things! Good point about Frazier. I don;t mind debates but READ the rebuttals! In this case if we take Armstrong as the most relentless, just as a point of reference, and create a scale, then pressure fighters would be a point on that scale. Qualities of relentless pursuite include punches, movement, beard, and the degree that the other guy is made to back up or trade. Or maybe you want to define what the quality is.

Frazier amd Marciano overlap in some areas and have different talents and weaknesses in other areas.

[billeau2]

That's why Walcott says hes not a combination puncher that hes a ONE punch fighter,not a one punch k.o artist ..a ONE punch specialist,,any vid of him fighting proves that,i even posted one of a compilation, this section is a bit behind always. I don't get it,why certain posters just have to say something to say something?.

Ohhh I get it....So Walcott would have said marciano is a one punch ko artist if he meant that as he was after all koeyd by marciano...but what he meant despite being koed that marciano was a one punch specialist!!!

You can be such a ******azz it dazzles the imagination

[billeau2]

Dude...you do realize when Joe Walcott said that, he was referring to one punch KO power, not combination punching or single shots, right?

Good luck. Despite the fact that walcott was koeyed he obviously meant to make a point about marciano's one punch ways and not the KO...and after all we see how in All the descriptions of Marciano the first descriptive term that comes up is "one punch guy."

But this is a red herring because the whole point was that Marciano had many talents to draw upon despite his usual ways.

Its just fun to get Juggy thinking he got over, he gets so excited.

[juggernaut666]

One punch was all he needed or else he wouldn't have gone undefeated.

Nope ,he had to constantly apply pressure and punish ,his record will show most of his k.os came after mid rounds with ranked opponents,he had many early k.os with lower level guys in the beginning of his career! Its not about being a one punch k.o artist "he wasnt" its about him hammering guys with ONE shot at a time which he did and did it rnd after rnd !He won his fights by out working his opposition with stamina ,making them throw more punches
not hitting harder ,Marciano for the most part broke his opponents down with body shots ,slowing them down ,hitting arms also to tire them out,they were ripe for the k.o when this happened ,it was more to do with wearing down not k.oing someone with one punch ,Marciano doesnt have to many of them!


P.S ...billy boy read the above you..

[juggernaut666]

Ohhh I get it....So Walcott would have said marciano is a one punch ko artist if he meant that as he was after all koeyd by marciano...but what he meant despite being koed that marciano was a one punch specialist!!!

You can be such a ******azz it dazzles the imagination

You are the one actually literally to ****** to respond to in the matter anymore ,though it was fun watching you squirm like the less knowledgeable worm you are in front of your history friends here,picking up the pieces that i yet again busted open only to TRY and confuse ,back track and switch altogether topics to SOUND important i'll spare you the Frazier comparisons you've been battered enough !.......

[billeau2]

You are the one actually literally to ****** to respond to in the matter anymore ,though it was fun watching you squirm like the less knowledgeable worm you are in front of your history friends here,picking up the pieces that i yet again busted open only to TRY and confuse ,backrack and switch altogether topics to SOUND important i'll spare you the Frazier comparisons you've been battered enough !.......

No troll....Just cause one says it doesn't make it so. You are an imbecile who mistook your one paltry source and you thought you would run with it. Sory troll, the battering continues and you as always are the dunce. The only thng battered has always been you, but you just keep getting smacked around. And your latest is particularly amusing....How you try to justify some idiotic notion you have that a fighter throws one punch at a time and that is relevent.

our a dunce and I will not allow your ******ity to gain root...sorry.


so whats it going to be? internet tough guy or crying to daddy? Or are you going to pull another predictable troll move?

[juggernaut666]

No troll....Just cause one says it doesn't make it so. You are an imbecile who mistook your one paltry source and you thought you would run with it. Sory troll, the battering continues and you as always are the dunce. The only thng battered has always been you, but you just keep getting smacked around. And your latest is particularly amusing....How you try to justify some idiotic notion you have that a fighter throws one punch at a time and that is relevent.

our a dunce and I will not allow your ******ity to gain root...sorry.


so whats it going to be? internet tough guy or crying to daddy? Or are you going to pull another predictable troll move?

It is relevant if that is the TOPIC I am DISCUSSING ,instead of jumping in like the usual clueless DOLT you are ,maybe I wouldn't pick on you but you seem to like it with the constant family B.S..im sure you wouldn't do that to my face believe me.Better yet go jump in traffic instead and save me from wasting my time explaining simple things to you ,you simpleton just for the sake of TRYING TO LOOK smarter than everyone and trolling the forum to win a unwinnable debate ...... I said I wouldn't reply back but you're such easy pickings you over welcome it!